Are there more than 2 sexes?

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How many sexes are there?

  1. One sex?

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  2. Two Sexes?

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  3. Three Sexes?

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  4. Four Sexes?

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  5. You tell us your number?

    18.6%
  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Can you name another besides the 2? I can't.
    Today, I am only aware of male and female in terms of sex. If that is what you are getting at?

    EDIT: I am aware of a 3rd type we ID today. One who has both sets of those 2 genitalia. Typically referred to as hermaphodites.

    So, I guess that makes 3. At least.

    How about this woman?
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    For years, Olympic champion Caster Semenya has been fighting for the right to compete. The South African sprinter, who's won back-to-back golds in the 800m, is hyperandrogenous, meaning that she was born with elevated levels of testosterone. World Athletics (IAAF), the international governing body of track and field, decided that gave her an unfair advantage over other women. The organization created a new rule stipulating that Semenya and other female athletes like her with naturally high levels of testosterone, would be forced to take medication in order to alter their hormones
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mo...hormones-i-will-continue-to-fight/ar-BB18SnPr

    Why does this woman have to take drugs to reduce her testosterone? She is female. IDs as female. But is not technically allowed to compete as a female as her natural body is. She must take drugs to alter her body to be more female.
     
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  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Try this explanation.

     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I think the confusion lies with those of us who aren't biologically adept.
     
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    4 then.
    Non liberals.
     
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    Both innie and outie and those inbetween.
     
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    Wow. I had you pegged for at least 95.
     
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    Also, it is very common for the more conservative folks to equal homosexuality and transgenderism to pedophilia or the propensity to commit sexual assault. These things though, do not usually overlap. Most homosexuals have as an exclusive object, an ADULT of the same sex (not all, since homosexual pedophilia does exist). Besides, pedophiles can perfectly be heterosexuals. Transgenders rarely commit sexual assault. They are often the victims of assault rather than the other way around.

    So, given the misconceptions, a lot of emotions are attached to these issues. They assume that homosexuals and transgenders are out to abuse their children or rape them in bathrooms, or they think that these people go to bathrooms to satisfy some some sort of voyeurism or to engage in assault, rather than to, well, do #1 and #2 (which is what the overwhelming majority of these folks want to do when they walk into a bathroom, just like everybody else).

    So, they mix into the issues I addressed in post #47, issues that are totally different and often independent, such as paraphilias / perversions (I could define them all like I did for sex, gender, and sexual orientation; I'd have to author another long, and let's say, less tasteful post, describing one by one these behaviors - I don't particularly feel like going into all the details, right now, and likely readers here wouldn't want me to, either).

    Basically my view on this is that sex between an adult and a child is always wrong, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. This is also how the law sees it (and I do realize that different states have different definitions of what constitutes a pair adult/child in this regard, with some age limits, age of consent, and age difference being considered somewhat differently by different states - my take on this is that whenever someone resides or is staying, he/she must abide by the laws of that state, in this, and in any other matter, since civilization thrives when citizens are law-abiding, so if the person or persons want to engage in these behaviors, they should be well advised to verify what the local laws are).

    As for paraphilias / perversions, my take on them is, a) does the activity occur between two consenting adults who are capable of consent and are not being coerced, overly hurt, or damaged in any way; b) does it occur in the privacy of four walls without unduly exposing others to traumatic scenes; and c) if one partner changes his/her mind and says no, does the other partner stop? If yes to all of these, then I have no say. If no to any of these, then it is, again, a matter for the law. These typically don't come to my attention as a physician, since most people who engage in paraphilias / perversions are perfectly happy with what they do and do not seek or desire professional help. It's when they ran afoul of the law that they attract attention (if caught), and in this regard it is not my role to give them that attention; it's the role of law enforcement and the judicial system.

    People who are victims of these behaviors when the answer to one or more of the three a-b-c questions listed above is "no" may be brought to my attention, and if it happens, they will be offered help like in any other situation of pain and suffering (if not within my specialty, then there will be referrals made, and the required notification to the authorities).
     
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    So we agree then.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How old can we peg you for?
     
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    I I I I I, am not sure.
    I am no expert for sure, but, I take most people at their word. Especially if it's about their life.
     
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    Oh you bet.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That report is very helpful to myself.
     
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    I'll answer. There are only two sexes.
     
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    Causes of Normally Dimorphic Hermaphrodites
    In sexually dimorphic organisms, a hermaphrodite may arise because of variations in the genetic code. In humans, hermaphrodites are caused by a variety of genetic conditions. In one form, a hermaphrodite or intersex person is created when two fertilized eggs fuse together, giving the zygote two X chromosomes and one Y chromosome. Other cases of hermaphrodites are caused by the SRY gene, the gene responsible for testosterone and male genitals, being transferred to the X chromosome during meiosis, resulting in both male and female genitals.
    https://biologydictionary.net/hermaphrodite/

    At least 3? Male, female, Inter.
     
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    No, still just male and female. The other is someone who has both. They get to choose.
     
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    LOL. Yes, they choose inter. Based on the definition.
     
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    brings about an interesting situation when someone tells them to gfy.
     
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    Hermaphrodites, based on the article I linked, actually can reproduce by themselves. Not saying human hermaphrodites, but species that are specifically unisexed or intersexed.
     
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    With the help of a turkey baster.


    But seriously, true hermaphrodites who could do that are extremely rare and unusual.
     
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    Disagree, The concern is not that homosexuals or transgenders are out to rape kids in bathrooms. The concern is giving biological males posing as homosexuals and transgender access to girls (women) locker rooms and/or bathrooms. Is it so very difficult for homosexuals or transgender to use their biological bathrooms? Does it really require putting women and girls at risk so EVERYONE else can accommodate the few who (for some reason) find it impossible to use a bathroom of their biological sex?

    If you don't think a pedophile or a rapist would masquerade as transgender to gain access to their victims then you are only concerned with one side of the coin. Are we all now required to just accept the idea that today, you feel like a woman so it is common place for a biological male to gain access to my wife or daughter in a shower, locker room, or bath room?

    If you were really concerned about the welfare of transgender or homosexual individuals, my suggestion would be to not make them victims of somebody's Dad or husband because no amount of political footballing is going to protect ANY biological male that gains access to a woman's facility when a Dad or husband believes their child or wife is under threat. Doesn't matter if the threat isn't real. It only matters what the Dad or husband perceives as a threat.

    The perceived threat of a girl or woman falling victim to a biological male in an exclusive female environment vastly outweighs this small minorities desire to use the bathroom of their choice and no additional laws are going to stop a father or husband who perceives this threat. Thats just the way it is.
     
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    I think it is a spectrum and can be fluid

    Nature is tricky

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    Doesn’t America have unisex toilets?
     
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    Some, but that wasn't the item under discussion.
     
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    Individual toilets sure. But women in America do not want men in the same place when they take care of natures needs.
    Men might love women in our toilets. But for what?
     

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