Are Trump supporters just going to take it?

I do. You made an unsubstantiated assertion. Of course, I could be unaware that any of the three stole money from a charity, cheated on their spouses, defrauded students of their school, raped a former spouse, cut off funds meant to pay for a nephew's illness, and attempted a coup.........but I don't think so.

 

Democrats ALREADY have another 4 years won regardless of which Republican runs, so long as the current (s)electioneering strategies of both major parties continue unchanged.

So long as Democrats continue going after the printing, distributing, harvesting, counting, and adjudication of as many ballots as possible (and as soon as possible), and so long as Republicans continue going after persuading as many voters as possible to vote for them on (s)election day, Democrats will ALWAYS win EVERY SINGLE TIME, whether it takes days or weeks or even a month after (s)election day.

Until Republicans start doing the same thing as Democrats, but only do it even better, Republicans will always lose.

Not DeSantis, not Noem, not Christie, not Haley, nor any other Republican other than Trump, is going to somehow become the "hero of the ticket", leading R's to victory. When (s)elections are all about ballots instead of voters, the candidate who is running doesn't matter... the campaign messaging doesn't matter... the personalities and issues don't matter... the debates don't matter...

All that matters is the ballots themselves, and the subsequent printing/distributing/harvesting/counting/adjudicating of them.


We're in uncharted times right now, so we can't keep doing the same things over and over again, expecting different results, and we can't keep pretending that voters still matter in this day and age. Trump is the only option moving forward, as he is the only option that is not beholden to the corrupt institutions that are causing these issues... and that includes both the DNC and RNC clubs and their mega donors.

 

We are all immoral, dude. We are all sinners.

Your point?

 

I don't make any claims to him playing "4 dimensional chess". He says and does a number of bonehead things. I don't care though, because he is actually representing ME instead of representing the interests of the beyond corrupted DNC/RNC clubs.

 

If you extend that to all Republicans running for Congress, and any other position in public office, who turn their back on Trump, you will have demonstrated your sincerity.

 

Do you realize the election is two years away? We could be in WW3 by then.

 

It's not about Trump, dude... it's about the corrupt RNC club. I'm not voting for anyone who is beholden (via big donor funding) to their elitist globalist interests.

 

It's not about Trump... it's about the RNC club.

 

Not soon enough for Fox to start giving Trump the cold shoulder, it would appear. And consider this: he's the ONLY one who has announced that he's running. And yet, they don't even mention him in a huge list of possible candidates.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...just-going-to-take-it.605675/#post-1073851711

Which means that not even Fox takes him seriously anymore.

 

I don't see him running as a third party candidate. He wants to win. As much as he would like to spite those not loyal to him by helping elect a Democrat, it would just chalk up yet another loss to add to the Trump column. Third party candidates don't win.

 

This thread IS about Trump. Are you attempting to evade the topic? Or are you saying that you won't vote for any Republican regardless? I mean, who best represents the fight against "elitist globalist interests" than Trump, right? So, will you explicitly state that you won't vote for any Republican who turns their backs on him, since he's the one willing to fight "the good fight"?

 

Well... what you're saying is that it's a stupid thing to do. Which, of course, it is. But when has that ever held Trump back? I mean, in his mind, what are his chances of winning if the Republican Party doesn't nominate him anyway?

I think it's quite plausible that he will be screaming about how the RNC abandoned him, how they committed fraud, and how he was stripped of 99% of the vote, which would allow him to win in the general. And for this reason.... say hello to the American Orange Party. I'm not saying it will happen, but the probabilities are not low.

Listen... this is a guy who organized an insurrection against the Government of the United States. The Republican Party is "small potatoes" for him, in his mind.

Of course, there is also the distinct possibility that he'll be in prison by then, and all this will be moot. I'm sure the RNC would love that way out of the mess too.

 

I think you are putting the cart before the horse.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html

 

Wait a minute. You responded to my hypothetical "What would most Republicans here do if Trump loses in the Republican primary (due to voter fraud, of course... how else would he lose?) and decides to run as a third Party candidate?"

So now you realized that you don't like your own answer?

 

I'm just pointing out that your post was beyond hypothetical at this point. Why does Trump own your mind?

 

Your attempt to explain away lack of concentration is very very lame.

 

He's the current leader. Because Mitch McConnell and Mike pence are not.

And I do Wonder what's going to happen this broken down old wreck of a party that was really kind of floating on hopes and prayers before Donald Trump consolidated it doesn't really stand a chance at attacking its own.

I think the Republican party will either die completely becoming obscure third party or it will assume the mega mantle going forward those are the only three outcomes I think is possible.

Going back to the way it was it's just Extinction

 

In the face of a barrage of criticism regarding their party, Republicans continue their policy of total silence.

I can't wait for these investigations to begin. The number one question -- What in the world are Republicans going to investigate? They don't know. They speak in vague generalities.

CNN reports, "After clinching the majority in the House of Representatives in the midterm elections, top Republicans on Thursday outlined a broad range of investigative targets focused on President Joe Biden and his family’s business dealings."

“In the 118th Congress, this committee will evaluate the status of Joe Biden’s relationship with his family’s foreign partners and whether he is a President who is compromised or swayed by foreign dollars and influence,” said Rep. James Comer of Kentucky, the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee. “I want to be clear: This is an investigation of Joe Biden, and that’s where the committee will focus in this next Congress.”

The perfect illustration of "vague generalities."

To find grounds for impeachment, the Republicans are going to investigate Biden's son.

"Comer said Republicans have made connections between the president’s son, Hunter Biden, and the president that they believe requires further investigation. Comer said his team has spoken with multiple whistleblowers who say they were involved in schemes involving the Biden family, reviewed Hunter Biden’s laptop, and received “previously unknown transactions,” CNN.

That's ludicrous. Some Republicans say they want to impeach our President, but they have no idea what they are going to impeach him for.

This is to get back at Democrats for their investigation of President Trump's role in the coup attempt to overthrow our elected government and his theft of classified documents when he left the White House. Both are the subject a criminal probe by the DOJ.

Trump said the “gravest threat to our civilization” was what he called the weaponization of the Justice Department and the FBI.

President Biden is prepared.

CNN explains, "More than four months before voters handed Republicans control of the House of Representatives, top White House and Department of Homeland Security officials huddled in the Roosevelt Room to prepare for that very scenario."

No doubt Republicans will continue their silence. It is the smart thing to do.

 

I agree

Well, conservatives are going to have to start by recoving it. But they'll need REALLY go back to their conservative roots. Trump is clearly not a conservative. Neither is DeSantis. He's an outright fascist. So if the GOP is to become grand again, they'll have to find a conservative leader. And the most important part, and maybe the hardest, is to shed Donald Trump. If he's sent to prison, it might help them. But I don't think trumpism is going to go down quietly. They will idolize The Donald even if he's in prison. And The Donald is going to lash out against everyone and everything Republican.

So the next step is to bring it back to what it was in its glory days: a REAL alternative. Not just the do-nothing party that is only there to cater to the donor class, but actually start producing ideas. And that might be even harder. But, if they don't, they'll just be sitting there waiting for the next Trump to take over.

 

I think those two and several others represent leadership of the 1990s a time period where the Republican party was mostly a **** stain on America.

Agreed they'll have to adopt fiscally conservative positions that we're abandoned before Reagan. And likely let go of some of the social crap.

So they jail people who disagree with them?

I don't think I you are correct. Trump was the most popular politician in the Republican party ever.

And his brand of Republicanism is here to stay.

That would be political suicide. Get rid of the the greatest leader of the party? I think you just want the party to be weak. The smart money is do the opposite of what you want.

the people beating off about putting Trump in prison are living in a fantasy land.

Trump's presidency was the glory days. The economy was roaring. I think that's why there were all the scams and hoaxes to try and impeach and prosecute.

 

I loathe Donald Trump. I wouldnt care if he got sucked into the intake fan of a turbojet engine.

 

Republicans Trump to call themselves the family values party, the Christian right, the moral right, the list goes on... Trump proves they are not

 

What a shame Republicans in congress defend crime and things like 1-6

 

well that may be the closet some republicans will ever come to admiting Trump is immoral and a sinner

 

I would think you’d be happy that he’s no longer the big cheese. People are moving on… How about you join in?