ARE WE ENTITLED TO AN HONORABLE CONGRESS?

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  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    MIT or UC Berkeley don’t invite plumber to be their chancellor. If there were conservatives educated enough to run education institute, they would run few of them.

    Technology company like Google or Microsoft don’t bring electrician to do their programming. If there were enough conservatives who could do those jobs, they would be in Microsoft or other silicon Valley companies.

    Same goes with other institution ; banking , scientific research, media are full of liberals , because conservatives are not qualified to run those institution.

    Only fools think education is not valuable. I really don’t understand why conservatives hate higher education.

    Maybe you don’t understand this, a moron can be a plumber, but a moron will never be a CEO of company like Google or ivy league colleges.
     
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    You are against capitalist / capitalism? Are you sure you are a conservative and not a MAGA? Corner stone of conservatism is Capitalism / Capitalist.

    Now it makes sense to me, you are not even a conservative but a MAGA.
     
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    Just because there is a higher chance that A Black Man will get killed by another Black Man doesn’t give the right to police officer kill an unarmed black man. End of the story.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A friend and I were discussing, how many logical, non-partisan truths could you lay on a liberal before he would acknowledge at least one. I said at least a hundred, my friend had more faith and thought surely ten. would get at least on recognition. You won the bet for me.

    And a moron can't be a good plumber, and more than a good CEO. Regardless of the skill, you can be a master or a joke at it. But the supply of educated fools is really excessive right now.
    You can be near-sighted and educated- and do stupid things. All these dem run cities that are turning into sinkholes for example. California is supposedly the hi-tech state, but the skilled people and companies are running out fast, because the liberal wisdom is like a shitstorm of stupidity- wrecking their economic future chasing hair-brained ideas.

    I have founded 8 business over more than 50 years. I am the CEO of the one I still run that has clients all over the world, and I've helped several people become millionaires. Been a consultant hired to teach fortune 500 managers how to think better. Invented many products as well as processes. I also know quite a few very successful entrepreneurs. Not one of them thinks liberal. You figure I'm a moron because I don't swallow the liberal hogwash? What have you accomplished in life, besides criticize people who can cut it?

    Awful lot of big business play to the press and crowd... but they are capitalists to the core, and wouldn't survive if they weren't. Today, the quantity of scams, of worthless people who could but won't manage their own life along with a host of devastating trends- all fall on the heads and policies of liberals. The "easy" way will always be popular with people, especially weak people. It is however- a dead-end path. The chaos is only going to get worse, because their capacity to learn anything that doesn't fit with their illusion- is zero. That was the question.... can a liberal learn anything that's outside his bubble? No. They just make nonsense arguments dodging the facts. Come back when you can deal with them.
     
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    With all your Success you think people with higher education are stupid. The partisan politics blinded your view.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Higher education does not make people stupid. Neither does it guarantee they will be wise, or prevent them from accepting stupid concepts. So long as a person understands his abilities and limitations, he can do a great deal- even if of average intelligence and education. As an old saying goes- an excellent plumber is more valuable than a poor philosopher, because his pipes hold water.

    It also depends on what they are taught, and by whom. As universities allowed more liberal philosophies to be the basis of classes, which started with the hippie days where students went to school burning up daddy's money to avoid entering the real working world. In the 70's I had a man working for me with a PhD. His parents had high hopes for him, and he stayed in school as long as possible to avoid having to actually make a living. At 35, he was still living at home. He was my warehouse janitor. Today, a person could learn to be a fine expert in computer science and a total jackass in regards to life and humanity at the same time. Higher education became corrupted quite a while back- and the idea that having a degree makes you competent was a manipulation of people to sell diplomas rather than teach a broad understanding and all-around skill at living. High-tec industries revolve around manipulation of information, not the production of products. It's hardly comparable to production industries where head-on competition drives pursuit of quality, productivity and value. It actually takes a lot if skill to do.... but not much in the way or morals or concern about the rights or welfare of people, not even of value. You're thinking that crap like twitter was doing is an example of success- but as usual, not looking behind the curtain at all. No morals to your story, unfortunately.

    Read the first two lines in my footer below.
     
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    Despite all your claim about all the international business you own and how successful you are , only an un-educated plumber would write something like “ an excellent plumber is more valuable than a poor philosopher”.

    I am one of those guys who manipulate data in information technology field. But you wouldn’t consider my work have any value because I am not “producing” toilet seat with my hand after dropping out of college.

    You have no clue the value of education, how can you discuss the value of society. There is a reason conservatism has been rejected by majority around the world. Conservatism is self-pompous righteous idea which belong in museum. Have a nice day.. you live with your value as long as you can ( soon it wouldn’t exist) and I will live with mine.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't write that...here's the whole thing...

    “An excellent plumber is infinitely more admirable than an incompetent philosopher. The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water.”

    ― John W. Gardner, Excellence

    Funny how that exactly describes the liberal philosophy of today, isn't it?

    I have no problem with google or any of the concepts of social media- UNTIL they begin to think it's reasonable to distort truth to manipulate other peoples values as they see fit.
    All people have a moral obligation to act honorably, but when you are in a position to manipulate the general public's perceptions, their understanding of news and information- it become much more, because you are lying to everyone, not just your friends who probably already have you pegged. Google has provided many excellent services I use regularly- maps. the google earth program, the search engines (which start moving into the manipulations area), many things that speed up what otherwise are laborious tasks. Those ARE NOT the same as manipulating public perception. The latter is flat out immoral. So I don;t know what the nature of your work is nor your standards, thus no idea if it applies to you or not. Let's just say it pays not to pretend you know everything about areas where you haven't a clue- and we all have some of those.
     
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    Democrat Politicians have no honor left, and haven't for many years. Republicans sold out several decades ago, and have very little honor left, and Conservatives have a descent to good amount of honor left.
     

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