Are we there yet?!!!

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  1. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    Where is my Utopia! :confusion:

    We let Saint Obama the Holy Messiah of Liberals spend 12 Trillion Dollars... So where's OUR cut?

    Jeffrey Immelt got his! Andy Van Jones and Valerie Jarrett got theirs!? Robert Reich got his!???

    The Chinese, Egyptians, Syrians, Iraqis, Afghaners, and Africans got theirs... :frown:

    So where's the Slice for U.S..... Damnit, we sold our children's and their children's future for that PIE!!!

    The Unions, and the Environmentalist, and Wall-street all got their slice! :evil:

    ..... What about U.S.!? :steamed:


    or maybe,... Just Maybe,....

    Its time for the Libs to admit that they deceived U.S. with lies and half-truths, and they knew from the start, that it was good money after bad... and they robbed U.S. Blind.

    Maybe it is time to Call Obama a Radical, a servant of of foriegn powers, a Tool and a Traitor.

    How can anyone who is a Classic Liberal, yet supported Obama, do anything but hang their head in shame and mutter bitter apologies.

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  2. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    So.... Are we there yet?!!

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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Define your definition of Utopia.
     
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    utopia was never promised. progress was promised and has failed to materialize, failed miserably. this administration's flagship legislation is being shown as an ill-conceived POS, our military is still following a timeline that was set forth by bobo's predecessor, our economy lurches forward and then takes two steps back and all we hear is how it is still bush's fault or the "obstructionism" of the republican party. under our current leadership we will soon have no remaining manufacturing base, having scared away anyone with the necessary funding to encourage growth, and our liabilities will continue to grow. well over half the nation is in some way dependent of the state for their survival and the state has proven is just isn't up to the job. on the international front, we continue to fund regimes that we know will prove hostile to our interests and the global community has seen just how ineffective american liberalism is at the peace-keeping role they have always demanded of us.

    looks like it's going to be a cold, cold winter.
     
  5. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    We're almost there. Just a couple more 5-year plans to achieve a Worker's Paradise.
     
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    Not yet... wait till Obama gets us into a war with someone and then declares martial law, suspending the constitution. Then we'll really be in a liberal democrat utopia.
     
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    You guys don't get it, do you? It doesn't matter who you elect from the two parties. The results will lead down the same path. This is the fallacy of partisanship. Stop attacking each other. Look for people who operate outside the establishment because only those people can expose the establishment which is completely created by the two party system.

    Jeeze, you lot. It's like every revelation you have is 'OMG, the OTHER PARTY', when the actual reality revelation is 'OMG, the PARTIES SOLD US OUT!'

    Keep sticking to your partisanship, like it's not the issue or anything. :roll:
     
  9. Tommy Palven

    Tommy Palven Active Member Past Donor

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    When the Secret Police are spying on everyone and droning American citizens, isn't the Constitution already suspended?
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With the muslim socialist Obama in charge we will NEVER get there.
     
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    You really had a pretty good overall post ... and I only picked this part to comment on as a somewhat nitpicky detail.

    Perhaps it is the fact that I got stuck on the words "scared away" ... and in concert with the idea of "encouraged growth".
    It doesn't always mean that investors are scared when they aren't encouraged ... Just that they find more appealing opportunities elsewhere.
    Capital Investors are accustomed to risk ... And approach opportunities with a different view than the average consumer.

    I know it is being nitpicky ... But it has everything to do with mindset of the investor.
    It isn't that America is scaring them away ... As much as they are complicating the process past the point that it is favorable to pursue growth.
    If America promises nothing but a continued assault on earnings ... Then it is only "reasonable" for an investor to look for a better return elsewhere.

    It isn't the same as consumer demand ... Where the fear of instability cause the consumer not to buy at all.
    Investors will invest somewhere ... And America is telling them that it doesn't respect them or need their cooperation.

    America is doing it to itself ... And it is reaping the benefits associated with the transformation to a more socialist society.
     
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    If you voted for Slick Barry Soetoro, you should already see and feel your Utopia coming into view:

    1. Banks alll nice and Bailed out as you wished for.
    2. Obamacare on the horizon as you wished for
    3. Drones over your city and neighborhoods already in practice
    4. Gun grabbed in position.
    5. Obama's Civilian Army coming into fruition
    6. Higher Taxes across the board
    7. Monsanto controlling the food with his help

    :evil:
    Welcome to HELL!
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    you may not like the terminology, but it is apt to the situation. with one hand we provide incentives for investment here in the form of tax breaks, a huge labor force and the necessary infrastructure. with the other hand we threaten increasing taxes, the tightening of regulations and price our labor too high with unions backed by the violent force of government intervention. if the schizophrenic nature of such a beast isn't frightening, i don't know what is. risk is a part of any investment, but a wise investor calculates the risk and decides whether the investment is a good bet or not. the shifting sands of a nation that is increasingly hostile to business makes those risks incalculable. with so many emerging nations offering so much more, why would anyone take the chance on a country that can't seem to make up its mind?
     
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    So...

    Are we There YET!

    Or will it take more of spending our unborn great grand children's future, condemning them to a lifetime of poverty and debt, to understand that Obama is a TRAITOR?

    Who gets the interest income benefit of Americans paying huge portions of their GDP in National Debt Installment Payments?

    Why on EARTH would we, the common middle class American, want to raise the debt ceiling, rather than just letting the Government be Shut Down?
     
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    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    Megyn Kelly has the goods, she has the memo which states that Obama was briefed on the fact that millions of Americans would loose there health insurance because of ObamaCare, yet AFTER recieving that information, he went on public record repeating that " If you like your plan, you can keep it!"

    He LIED.

    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/10/28/megyn-kelly-takes-dem-over-broken-obamacare-promise

    He lied about something which he knew was going to significantly hurt 10s of millions of Americans.

    When a President LIES about about something which cause significant damage to 10s of Millions of Americans, it is TREASON!

    Impeach President Obama for TREASON!
     

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