Are you following the Jan 6 hearings?

As if a monopartisan party driven propaganda production is going to present truth...

The ratings of this shitshow speak for themselves. If everyone not watching is a 'trump supporter', well that that's over 90% of the population.

...more likely everyone just knows its all bullshit.

 

You know that it is possible to despise Trump and think that the hearings are a politically motivated waste of time

 

Unlike inflation, viewership was transitory.

 

I only followed it on PF if just looking at the title of the thread counts as that. I normally don’t post on any thread with 1-6 hearings in the title. I didn’t watch the primetime hearing or any of the hearings or any news on TV about the hearings. My main reason is I don’t give a coyote’s howl what happens to Trump. I wanted him gone, I voted for Biden, Biden won, mission accomplished. I consider Trump a has been, although he and his followers haven’t realized that yet. I think congress should be concentrating on other things that are much more important to this nation. To the question of - Do you think Congress should be concentrating on investigating January 6th or should they instead be focusing on other issues like crime and inflation? 63% of Adults answered concentrating on other issues, party breakdown 63% of Democrats say 1-6, 37% investigate other issues. Republicans 14% 1-6, 86% other issues, independents, 33% concentrating on 1-6, 67% concentrating on other issues like inflation, crime, etc.


https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/HHP_June2022_KeyResults.pdf


Now not being interested in the hearings didn’t stop me from researching the effects of the broad casting of the primetime hearings on the upcoming midterms. What I did was compare the 8 June numbers for the generic congressional ballot, Biden’s overall job approval numbers and the number of competitive, at risk, switchable seats for each party in the house along with the tossup states in the senate through 27 June when the SCOTUS overturning of ROE replaced the 1-6 hearings as the hottest issue.


What I found was basically no change in the generic congressional ballot, Republicans congressional candidates had a 2.8-point lead on 8 June and a 2.6-lead on 28 June. Basically, just the normal ups and downs of polling. Biden’s overall job approval numbers were at 39.7/55.0 approve/disapprove on 8 June, on 27 June 39.1/56.4 approve/disapprove on 27 June. Biden dropped a bit. The house showed 40 Democratic seats, 13 Republican seats in the at-risk category. A probable gain of 18-20 seats for the Republicans. Senate – 4 pure tossups, 3 democratic held seats, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, 1 Republican held seats, Wisconsin. 2 lean Democratic seats, Democratic held New Hampshire and Republican held Pennsylvania, 1 lean Republican seat, Republican held North Carolina. Probable net gain of 1 seat for the Democrats, Pennsylvania. On 27 June, none of this had changed at all.


My conclusions, regardless of the passion for the hearings for some, the primetime broadcast, none of this changed any planned votes for the November midterms. Those who plan on voting Democratic are interested with a passion that is unbelievable. Those who plan on voting Republican don’t care about them. Those undecideds, the hearings are a non-issue, irrelevant to their decision or they would have decided who to vote for if the hearings were important to them. My two cents anyway.

 

I think one needs to realize that there are a lot of folks who really dislike Trump, find him distasteful, rude, uncouth, a devious, corrupt individual who voted for Biden, against Trump, but aren’t at all interested in the 1-6 hearings. For most of these people, Trump is gone, he’s ancient history, that there are much more important issues facing this nation that congress needs to address such as inflation, rising prices, crime, abortion, immigration, etc. than concentrating on 1-6. 1-6 is history, these other problems are with us today, they affect us today, 1-6 doesn’t.


I’m one of those, Trump had to go, so I voted for Biden. Biden won; mission accomplished. I don’t give an owl’s hoot what happens to Trump. Charge him, send him to jail, let him walk, all are irrelevant. He’s no longer president, no longer in charge, he’s a has been, an EX. Although being an anti-Trumper, I probably will vote Republican this midterm due to the fact the democratic congress isn’t addressing my concerns like inflation, crime, rising prices. Instead concentrating on Trump and 1-6. Either try to solve the problems this country faces today and forget Trump, he’s irrelevant to most of us or continue with your Trumpitis and lose the midterms.

 

Trump attempted to overthrow the government with a violent coup. That is an attack on the country and it is still ongoing.

You people need to get a grip. We almost lost the country. And the Jan 6th committee is proving that.

This wasn't just politics. The trumlicans are trying to eliminate any checks and safeties like those that stopped trump the first time.

Not to mention that when someone attacks the country, they need to be held accountable or the next guy will be worse. Wake the F up! This is simple stuff.

 

If an attack on the country isn't worth bothering you, what is?

Do you care about anything?

 

1-6 didn’t stand a snowball’s chance in Hades of succeeding. Just another riot that happened to take place in Washington D.C. instead of Minneapolis, Portland or Seattle. Even if the rioters were successful in taking over the capital building and stopping the count of electoral votes, the police and if they needed help, the army would have arrested them, made them vacate the building. Get real. No way can a couple of hundred rioters take over the government in a coup. They went against every rule in the successful coup handbook.


As for the 1-6 hearings. People are planning on voting Republican this November for congress. The 1-6 hearings don’t even make the list of most important issues in which people decide who to vote for. Number 1 issue is inflation, inflation, inflation and rising prices.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html


https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/0atxy0xx1u/econTabReport.pdf


I know, most democrats don’t want to hear that they’re the only ones interested in the 1-6 hearings along with a few other anti-Trumpers. That the 1-6 hearings aren’t important enough for folks to change who they plan on voting for in November. That the hearings are basically irrelevant to most unless you’re a democrat and an avid anti-Trumper. Trump to the rest of us is ancient history, he’s no longer in charge, no longer president, a has been who doesn’t know it yet. Inflation, rising prices affect all of us today along with a host of other issues, healthcare, abortion, climate changes, crime, immigration, education, national security, foreign policy with the war in the Ukraine, the national debt, and more. Not 1-6. That doesn’t affect anyone today in leading their daily lives and trying to make ends meet and take care of family. It’s today we’re living in, not yesterday and certainly not a year and a half ago.

 

Just the country, my disdain for political parties are notorious. For those who belong it is always political party over country. Political parties will use anything, say anything, do anything to gain a political advantage over the other political party without thinking one iota about the country or the future. That is the future past the next election. Both major political parties are destroying this country from within. It won’t be long before they’re successful in my opinion. We’re almost there.

 

You think over 90% of the population are "Trump supporters"? Do you mean the US population or the world population?

Trump was legitimately fired because more of us hate his guts so that can't possibly be about the US population. Maybe the world but much of the world hates him too. Go to any forum for any other country and you will see how very untrue that is. The Queen denied his request to ride in her chariot because her security detail was concerned that she could be hurt if someone tried to assassinate him.

Maybe you just think that's untrue because he spreads the lie that he is so well-loved. He's not. Not even close.

 

I was speaking to the assertion made by the poster I quoted that everyone not watching the shamshow must be a Trump supporter. I disagree with that assertion. I think most people just know its a fraud on both sides of the aisle.

 

Oh, my apologies then. I must have that person on ignore because I only saw your comment.

I don't believe that it's a sham (and not because I despise him). My ethics and values aren't dependent on anything outside of me so I would feel this way if I voted for a candidate (which I think is completely disconnected from their likeability) that was in the same position. There has to be accountability and we need a definite plan moving forward to prevent something like this from ever happening again.

 

I'm not opposed to the investigation. How the investigators were selected and the $20M they spent professionally producing the presentation of what so far is just attempts at more character assassination in liu of actual evidense of the crimes they're investigating is what makes me think its a sham. Maybe one of these promised 'BOMBSHELL!!!!!'s will prove me wrong. But I doubt it. We've seen this show before...

 

Your first sentence is contradictory to the rest of your post. Why do you think preparing for this hearing means it's not credible? The goal of the committee is to determine facts and share that information so they can plan on how something like this happened and how to prevent it from happening again. All investigating committees spend money to have presentations professionally developed. Why is this one suddenly not legit?

 

I can't explain it any differently than I already have. The investigators are clearly biased and putting on a show, but with nothing to show. Or do you think there's enough to indict Trump for insurrection and take it to court right now?

 

I don't understand why you think there is "nothing to show".

The harsh reality is our penultimate president attempted to steal an election and resorted to manipulation, threats and everything in between to bring that to fruition. I do not believe that to be "nothing".

Again, the committee is not there to determine guilty or not guilty.I think there is enough evidence for this committee to have a vested interest in figuring out how it happened and to prevent if from ever happening again in our country.

I also believe that you are playing semantics. There may not be enough information to prove/disprove insurrection.

There is a ton of information to prove dereliction of duty, misappropriation of funds, crimes against humanity, anti-USA subterfuge and mental instability. Nobody on this side has tried to pigeon-hole this as "insurrection". It's much, much bigger than that.

 

I ticked Only what folks talk about here on PF, but even then, I skip read it because it's another nothingburger.

 

Might have been if it weren't for fake Democrats with their fake made up committee, and their fake hearsay testimony refusing cross examinations or witnesses for the defense.
But there are about 15% out there who will willingly slurp up anything they are told by the Democrat party no matter the conditions.
Can you let us all know when the form a committee that uses the rules of evidence, is empowered by the house, that can subpoena legally, and get indictments from the AG?
Until then, This is only for those less fortunate soles who are lacking in critical thinking skills.
You can get about the same one sided commentary by watching the view.

 

And all for nothing wasting time with a committee that has no teeth, no power, and no legal direction. And for what?
To entertain that left over 15%.
Ignoring the rules of evidence, refusing cross examination to verify witness credibility, all you have done is create about the same platform as the view.
Useless and baseless that doesn't convince anyone of anything. Of course that hold out 15% doesn't really need any convincing and will swear by anything but that has no value as well.