Ashamed to admit I just had a negligent discharge

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  1. der wüstenfuchs

    der wüstenfuchs Member

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    Those two look like a pair that tried to test me, I ate their livers with fava beans, and a nice Chianti.....


    So, what happened ? :gun:

    Hmmmm ???.....



    Please tell me, The newspapers won't say.
     
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    I'd like to know how also. My biggest fear of ND is during holstering, cleaning and dropping the gun. Which was yours, or is their something else I should worry about? Was it in a public place? Was anybody or anything hurt? Did the police get involved? How has it changed you?

    People always see cocky people NDing on youtube videos and think it will never happen to them. We like to make fun of them, but that's not always the case. Sometimes the gun is the culprit with poor design or poor maintenance. Sometimes it's just poor finger control or a freak accident causing you to drop the gun.

    Or was this a metaphor and you are about to be an unexpected daddy?
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think they would look great on your gun as a wall decoration next to:

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    I think they would look great on your gun as a wall decoration next to:

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  5. der wüstenfuchs

    der wüstenfuchs Member

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    So I was doing some drinking last night and thought this would be a good thread. After I posted it I changed my mind thinking it was stupid. Now I'm awake and it's a GREAT thread so I HAVE to tell this story.

    We've all heard that if you play with fire enough times you get burned. Eventually you will let your guard down and it will come back to bite you in the ass. Well it happened to me. I wasn't careful and it was disastrous. The good news is it wasn't a gun that went off.

    So for a few years I've been making these pressure bottle targets. You fill a plastic pop bottle with water, add some yeast and sugar then seal the bottle. If you make bread you know yeast eats the sugar and makes gas which is what makes your bread rise. When the gas is contained it pressurizes. With pop bottles it makes a fun target. They spray around a lot with a .22. In all the years I've made these I've never had one pop without being shot. I've had them sit around for 6 months. I've had them slide around in the bed of my truck.

    Earlier this week I made a batch and left them on my dresser. I guess they're making the bottles a little thinner these days. I came home from work and my house smelled like beer. One of them exploded and made a pretty good mess. Learn from my mistake. Do stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) like this outside.
     
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    So I was kind of right. It was a metaphor for something else.

    I'm glad you aren't going to be an unexpected daddy.
     
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    " My biggest fear of ND is during holstering, cleaning and dropping the gun. "

    That is why we practice the rules of gun safety, all guns are treated as if they are always loaded even when they are not loaded.

    One of the great things about Police type firearms training is simplification and uniform equipment that reduces risks of a ND if we do our part.
     
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    I'm pretty strict about keeping the finger off the trigger until I'm ready to shoot. When I practice drawing at the range my trigger finger is along the side of the gun outside the trigger guard until my sights are on target. In a situation where I unholster and don't shoot I always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction while I clear it. I don't worry much about dropping guns because modern guns are drop safe. Cleaning should be a no brainer since you should safely clear the gun first then disassemble.
     
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    I was trying to clarify those points discreetly.
     
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    Yeah and emphasizing them in red was super discrete. ;)
     
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    No, however, they were not my views as you seemed to think.

    Funny how some people are over 30 - 90 years old chronologically, however, they remain or are stuck eternally at 10 years old on the maturity scale.
     
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    Well I guess I should have multi quoted. I knew what you were addressing. I just wanted to add my feedback to emphasize the importance of user judgment and how easy it is. Anyway at least now we're all on the same page. :)
     
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    Glad you're still here to talk about it.

    Try Bear Spray.
     
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    It had nothing to do with Guns, it was plasic soda bottles & yeast ferment that burst.

    Do try to keep up.
     
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    If your were carrying your personal side arm while serving in a military honor guard and accidentally shot yourself in the leg during a funeral, I totally know who you are.....otherwise, just put some silicon over the hole in your roof.
     
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    That made very little sense.
     
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    Then you weren't the member of the national guard honor guard who shot himself in the leg at a funeral at a local funeral home with the sidearm he had been previously reprimanded several times for carrying that will now end him up in the brig as soon as his leg heals.
     
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    Lol, no, I never fiddle faddle with a sidearm, it is impossible for a sidearm to fire, unless you fiddle faddle with it.

    And they take you to the Infirmary Brig healed or not.
     
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    Not really sure how it happened. I was told it was a bloody mess though.
     
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    I know precisely how it happened:

    Military rules for a sidearm:

    1. Chamber empty.
    Strike 1

    2. Sidearm secured in it's holster.
    Strike 2

    3. Keep your finger off the trigger.
    Strike 3

    He violated many safety rules and also Military Regulations;

    He Fiddle Faddled with a loaded sidearm when he should not Fiddle Faddle, and so lost the Battle.

    The safety rules are simple enough, yet I have witnessed lots of really dumb mistakes by people with Decades of Advanced Military & Police experience and training.
     
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    If he's carrying an M9 it's safe enough to carry with one in the pipe.
     
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    Yes, very safe, yet he still shot himself.

    People have safely carried a 1911 chamber hot, C&L for a bit over
    100 years.

    Military Regulations say empty chamber,
    Nothing to do with normal rules of Gun safety.
     
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    glad everything turned out ok. I had a friend that used to mix up something similar (maybe the same stuff),only he would put it in a empty milk jug. They sure make a great target at 500yds.
     
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    I've tried this with water and juice bottles but not milk jugs. The jugs seem too flimsy for that kind of pressure. The water bottles are too thin and explode. Juice bottles leak gas around the seal but I suppose you could epoxy the cap if you wanted.
     
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    Vinegar and baking powder or is it baking soda ?
    builds up lots of pressure fast !
     

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