Ashkenazi Jews from 350 people, maybe Khazars?

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Lemba and Ethiopian Hebrews group closer with Africans than with Jewish Europeans. Your information is false
     
  2. Esau

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    Igbo oral traditions state that European Jewish people are recent converts to a religion and not authentic Jews. So it looks like Jews don't even believe Jewish people are the real deal, that's just the cold hard truth
     
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    Well we can't argue with the Logbo can we...., "cold hard truth" :fart:

    :thumbsup:
     
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    who is we, jewISH people?
     
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    Yes, I'm sure the rest of the world counts on your hunches and the educated elders of the Gazaboo tribe :) COLD HARD TRUTH !
     
  6. Ronstar

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    Igbo says that European Jews aren't real Jews?

    got a source for this?

    however, i don't really care, as European Jews contest the authenticity of African Jews, which isnt fair in my book.

    they are all Jews, if you ask me. and the genetic research supports this

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    European Jews have the J1 haplotype. as do many Lemba and Igbo.

    this shows shared ancestry.
     
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    boasting against the branches?? such a surprise! unfortunately, you dont got next.

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    we all share ancestry with africans. the j1 is probably a european admixture and therefore not Israelite but kind of jewish.
     
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    do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.
     
  9. Ronstar

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    J1 is Middle Eastern, not European.

    if you cared about the subject at all, you would know this.

    most people that have J1 live in Palestine, Jordan, Kurdistan, Yemen.
     
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    yeh, its probably an admixture with europeans. who cares.
     
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    no, its NOT an admixture with Europeans.

    its a purely Middle Eastern/Levant gene.

    all the research says this.
     
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    do you know what admixture means?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sure i do.

    and there is none with the J1 gene and the Middle East.

    its a purely Middle Eastern gene
     
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    :roll:

    thats because that is where the mixture took place
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you have no evidence that J1 is due to any mixture.
     
  16. Gilos

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    Your decision to favor some "oral tradition" of some African tribe over Academic materials is another "faithful" preference as your whole perspective on the topic is. that's cool, just don't be surprised other ppl prefer science and real academic studies over dried lizards magic of the Bazombo tribe......
     
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    Thought you said the Jews are not Hebrews, so what roots and branches are you talking about now ?
     
  18. Esau

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    the science does not prove Israelite descent but you know this already. you seem to show a racial bias or preference to white jewish people, thats a sad situation but part of western tradition also.

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    i never stated that jews were not Israelites but lets look at this from your bias. if you think you are a jew, then why do you try to boast against the branches?
     
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    If you read Academic works you would know how scholars reach theories and how theories get accepted in the world, there is no faith involved at all, there is nothing in the history of man kind to suggest the Hebrews all disappeared and replaced by aliens/others. the Academy has no reason to suspect the development of the Hebrew/Judean ppl was any different than other nations. that is if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck - it's a duck. converts work the same way it did during the Kingdom, ppl added ppl left, no reason to suspect aliens assumed their identities while the world slept.

    Kindly stop with the "racist biased" crap, one has to be a complete idiot to buy African oral traditions over approved Academy researches, I know you don't....


    Dodging time? OK,

    I never stated a boast on a branch or a twig, what are you talking about ? :eyepopping:
     
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    there is no academic work that is backed up by scientific proof that european people who practice judaism are lineal descendants if the Biblical Israelites. it really is as simple as that.
     
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    There never will be, hence calling it "theory", 3000 years have passed, that's no excuse to disregard Academic researches and accept "African Oral tradition" :)
     
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    thank you.
     
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    Pleasure, I also reccomend reading about Jewish history you'd be supprised how much is recorded
     
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    i read a lot of Israelite literature.
     
  25. Ronstar

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    many Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews possess the J1 chromosome, which is Middle Eastern.
     

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