Asinine Liberal CO2 regulations gone insane: Case Study

The Morning Star Packing Company. The take fresh tomatoes and spices and simmer them down to tomato paste and can them for consumption. No toxic chemicals, just heat spices and tomatoes. One would think how much cleaner can a business be? Not according the Air Nazi's to the California Air Resources Board.

Had Morning Star decided to cook their tomatoes with electricity instead of natural gas, they wouldn't have to pay for any carbon credits, the electric company gets them for free even though they use dirty coal power plants.

The company CARB is trying to break the back of is described as One Company's Audacious Org Chart: 400 Leaders, 0 Bosses at Morning Star, the world's largest tomato processor, employees make all the decisions--from how they'll do their job to what resources they need to do it. We need Montoya and those critical of "Big Corporations" to weigh in on this one. An employee run company is having it's life snuffed out by California's Crap and Trade. If they are to survive I think they'll have to pack up and move to Texas. It's liberal crap like this that is killing jobs in California and pushing the unemployment in my county back up to 11.1%.

 

Not surprising. I wish it were. California is on it's way to being Detroit writ large.

 

The cooperative movement never gets anywhere anyway. You'd think they were Parsi.

 

It's funny, both Detroit and California are poster children for socialist ideology.

 

In EPA-speak that wonderful smell of bread baking is air pollution. It contains ethanol - a VOC.

 

CARB (California Air Rescources Board) makes the EPA look like Novices.

 

This thread must be Lib Kryptonite.

Where's my old buddy espousing the evils of big corporations? This is an employee run operation and they are getting snuffed out by far left wing nuts. What do you have to say?

 

It is the workers I have concern for, so as a pseudo-leftist I will apologise for them. There isn't any reason they should face such fines, they're tomato workers.

 

Excess CO2 is pollution. Why does the right wing like pollution?

 

So you're polluting by breathing? Plants breath in CO2 and exhale Oxygen. I learned that in 10th grade Biology. Why does the left want to kill all the plants?

 

That company was partly responsible for the power outages we suffer for days at a time, with no working fridges, and other appliances like AC, and then what about internet access and cable TV?

Carbon emissions need to be cut down, or we would have more terrible storms, they are associated with hurricanes and the reason this season has been slow is because of these regulations.

You can't argue with nature, ever since the regulations started we have been getting less bad storms.

 

Is that right?

 

"fridges, and other appliances like AC" run on natural gas?

 

They can tomatoes! They could dump their vats down the storm drains and it would just attract ants and smell bad after a while. No damage to the "environment". How could such a "green" product company be extorted by the Government for $375,000.

 

I wrote "excess" CO2 emissions so that nobody would mention breathing.

A factory spewing millions of tons of CO2 into the air is excess, so it's pollution. A person breathing is not excess, so it's not pollution.

People also emit poop but that doesn't mean it's healthy for the rest of us.

Amounts (parts per volume) are important because a little (like less than 1 part per trillion of dioxin) may not be harmful, even though dioxin is very toxic.

I don't know why the far right loves defending polluters.

 

If the warmies are serious about warming why a carbon tax instead of a deforestation tax? For them it's all about the Benjamin's. Making money from thin air has been a con mans dream throughout the ages.

 

I'm all for a de-forestation tax. It's not about money, it's about health.

 

Carbon tax is just all about the money. Forest area the size of England, Scotland and Wales is clear cut every year.

What exactly is the California Air Resources Board going to do with the $375,000 the collected from the Tomato Paste company that will directly reduce CO2 levels? Or are they simply using it as a funding mechanism to keep CARB flush with money for raises and bonuses?

 

Gee... and we have many problems, from species endangerment to possible climate changes, as a result.

I don't know. Why don't you ask them?