Ask a Marxist!!!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by blackharvest216, Jul 16, 2015.

  1. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    I think when you get your politics from "Stewie" from "Family Guy", that should give you a clue
     
  2. PaulDennis

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    This kind of Marxism and Communism talk sickens me. I had (most are now deceased) relatives that escaped during the Hungarian Revolution, where murder and imprisonment were the tools the Soviets used to crush the revolution. This guy Black Harvest would wet his pants if he ever really had to be directly involved in any of these types of conflicts.

    Talk is cheap......that is why his posts are total nonsense. :roll:

     
  3. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    You say you don't need any central planning under marxism, so I'm not really sure how marxism is different from capitalism.

    For example, I'm the guy that goes out and harvests the yellow color needed to make a pencil. And I'm damn good at my job.

    Explain why I should work for a marxist pencil marker rather than the capitalist pencil maker that is willing to pay me as much as the yellow paint dye market can bear. I'm not happy with just as much as I need, and no more. I want that, and much much more!
     
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    I guess I got the answer to my question.
     
  5. blackharvest216

    blackharvest216 Banned

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    no it's not
     
  6. blackharvest216

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    well i imagine that is because your definition of communism is synonymous with state capitalism, is it not?
    the question you should be asking is why you think being the man who is best at getting yellow die for a pencil is a great job. Why does it matter if a pencil is yellow, brown or green? a pencil could be mutli-colored and still serve its purpose, but because marketing makes a yellow pencil "better" you think your job as the yellow dye maker is somehow important

    Asking why you would rather work for a Marxist rather than a capitalist, too me is like asking, why should work for a slave driver, than be a normal worker

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    what? that im 3 1/2 years old? lol

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    i love family guy! whats wrong with that?

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    yes im afraid so
     
  7. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    If the marxist is gonna pay me the most, then I'll work for the marxist. Just don't be surprised if I like to keep my options open, because competition is a mofo, and I work for whoever pays me the most.
     
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    why do you value money so much?
     
  9. Cathor

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    Why are Marxists and Communists obsessed with the idea of destroying capitalism?
     
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    How does Marxism deal with citizens who care NOT to contribute, but still feel justified to draw from community resources?
     
  11. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

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    This is a rather broad question: How can you a marxist when it has been shown to be so wrong both in theory and practice? Is it based on reason or on emotion?
     
  12. NothingSacred

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    That's normal, if they can it's right, it's family! Rich, white Anglo-Saxon, WASP fcckheads do it, but nobody criticizes them?
     
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    This is BS, this idea that socialists or Marxists don't want to work. When in fact the whole ideology is based on working. The reason for failure in communist regimes is based on capitalist assswholes who refuse to work because they feel they are ENTITLED to way more than they deserve.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The commies failed so badly because in the end, it is a government/economic system that runs counter to human nature.

    There has never been a commie regime that didn't have a super privileged elite. But the incentives to prosper in such a regime for the "worker" are minimal and not very effective given the productivity of such regimes.

    Nothing like waiting in line for a couple of hours for toilet paper and bread. No wonder the vodka was so cheap and plentiful.
     
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    As you mentioned, left communists in general and yourself specifically have not liked how the different instances of communism have actually turned out. I'm still not clear on what sort of system you're exactly pushing for, and it sounds like neither are left communists in general.

    However after as many attempts at communism as there have been, it seems unreasonable to expect anything other than something akin to Stalinism being the end result, regardless of what an individual might be pushing for. Why do you think whatever you're pushing for would turn out any different?
     
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    In re this, couldn't computers make that kind of planning possible?
     
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    Because I like nice things.
     
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    If a computer could be programmed to know exactly what each individual person desires for every moment and every contingency, then sure. But that would be unnecessary because people are more than happy to do that job themselves.
     
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    In you perfect world who cleans the toilets?
     
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    The whole ideology was originally written by two people. One who never worked a day in his life and the other born into a 19th century wealthy industrialist family had people work for him.

    And to this day lazy academics and guilty industrialists make up the backbone of the socialist movement.
     
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    Do disagree with any aspect of Marx? Any of his social or economic theories?
     
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    Since the pencil question is one of the most well known examples in all of economics and rather old, 1958, this is a rather revealing response from you.

    It shows that you have insulated yourself from the real world. Let me guess you surround yourself with like thinking people none of whom actually give you such tough yet simple questions. Your stuttering responses to the pencil question are endemic of the failure of socialists world wide.

    God forbid you and your insulated friends actually got power and then found out just how hard it is to get a pencil made. Lord help every logger, miner, miller, etc. when you cant get your pencil.
     
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    I ask the OP if he has read the Communist Manifesto.
     
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    After the initial revolution is done with, why do we need to have a "dictatorship of the proletariat"? Why can't we go straight to the anarchy?
     
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    How do you respond to Locke's argument of individual property rights as natural rights and the relationship between labor and ownership?
     

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