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  1. DoctorWho

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    Nope, you are wrong, peer pressure from other people is the real culprit, a parent can do the right thing, and others can convince a child that something is wrong and make that child, uncomfortable.
     
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    Peer pressure only pressures if kids are raised to be vulnerable to it. Goodness me, this is very basic stuff!

    It's our jobs to raise kids who don't seek all their validation from peers. Parenting 101.
     
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    Yeah, good luck getting children to believe anything their parents say, hook line & sinker, when I was very young, many times I did my own thing, however, I kept my big mouth shut and they were never the wiser for it.

    Peer pressure was way off the charts and Parents were seen as fuddy duddy to be yes answered and promptly dismissed mentally or tuned out.
     
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    Well I'm sorry for you. That does seem to be a common problem in the west.

    Once again, you fail to take into consideration the many millions of Asian kids being raised in a very different way, and with very different outcomes. Your own (American - if you're American that is) stats show that Asian Americans do better in just about every life success measure. They're particularly less prone to rebellion and negative behaviours in teenage years, so all of your personal experience in this regard is peculiar to the way you were raised. It's not the blueprint for humanity. Why on earth would you imagine that it is?
     
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    Because my peers, of many nations would tell me so, many were afraid to tell their parents they were gay, and my parents would not allow a sleep over if they knew my friends were gay, so it was best to keep my mouth shut about such things and be supportive of my friends, church and other places were most vocally anti LGBT.
     
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    So don't tell them! Why would a teenager tell parents about the details of their private life anyway? That would be creepy.

    If a boy is gay, it's none of his parents' business. It's a private matter. Just as he wouldn't necessarily tell his parents about a girlfriend (at age 16 or 17), if he were straight. I know that most gay boys in 'conservative' Asian families just keep it low profile until college etc, then introduce the first serious partner to mom & dad as a 'friend'. They know mom & dad will figure it out (and they ALWAYS do, in my experience), nothing needs to be spelled out. In every family I've known where this has happened there was little to no negative fallout. Most Asian parents' only point of contention is grandchildren. But that would apply equally if it was a hetero daughter who didn't want kids. It's not homophobia by any stretch of the imagination. They are not 'anti LGBT', they simply don't acknowledge it one way or the other unless it's standing in front of them.
     
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    Uhhhh, no, I once got caught in a wine press situation complete with arm twisting by a friends parents, they were Chinese and wanted to know if their son was Gay, and what did he talk about when he would stay over with me, mostly insinuating I might be Gay too, they reduced me to tears, then they left off and we continued friends, however it was a terrible abuse they put on me at such an early age, we were both 10 years old.
     
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    They were idiots. Also, they had no right to confront someone else's child. There are great western parents, and terrible Asian parents. It's about what generally gets better results.
     
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    They were experts, they pinched me in ways, and little buffets and other unspeakable private things that hurt terribly bad, even pouring Tiger balm on me, and this made me feel incredibly worthless and weak.

    However, to my credit, I told them nothing about their son, my friend, he never forgave his parents for what they did to me.
     
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    that's very abusive stuff. criminal, in fact. did you tell your parents what they were doing?
     
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    Oh no ! In spite of the abuse, they were very good people, just Anti-Gay at the time, later they accepted the fact that their son was Gay, after a big blow up and he threatened to go to the Police for what they had done to me, they poured Tiger Balm on my private parts reducing me to the equivalent of a naked sobbing little girl.

    Get some so you can see how potent or strong that stuff is !

    Still, I really did not want my friends parents to go to jail, even though what they did to me was criminal.
     
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    How many "gay" kids did you know?
     
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    "Good" people don't abuse children.
     
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    They were not good people. They were insane monsters. Further, they were handling your bits. That's entirely criminal, even without the abuse.
     
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    Well, at the time I did not know any better, maybe Stockholm syndrome too perhaps.

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    At least 10 or so, L&G, in the closet.
     

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