Assuming Adolf Hitler won WW2 - how would the World be now?

Startling isn't it? It almost makes one look back fondly on the days when the hate was limited mostly to blacks and Mexicans.

On the bright side, at least we can identify these cockroaches for who and what they are.

 

In other words, you don't know the evidence, since no evidence exists, and you're operating on faith. Indeed, the Holohoax is a religion for some in the same way man made global warming is for others. No evidence required, just blind fanaticism.

Did you not see the newspaper calling for the Jews of the world to unite against and `bring its wrath` upon Germany in 1933?








Are you denying this was real... or what are you denying here? I'd say a rallying call put on the front page of multiple

Which camps? Which allied forces? The Western allies liberated work camps. Your "Holocaust" stories come from the mass murdering Soviet Union which doesn't have a great track record for honestly.

Whenever you're ready with evidence for 6,000,000 Jews being gassed in gas chambers.

 

Because we have freedom of speech and freedom of assembly in the U.S. any group of a specific political ideology is allowed to demonstrate and organize and that includes the American Communist Party and even the American Nazi Party.

ALL....are allowed to attempt to run for office under their own specific political agenda so it say's a great deal how even though the American Nazi Party exists and is allowed to run for office THAT NOT A SINGLE AMERICAN NAZI PARTY MEMBER HAS EVER BEEN ELECTED TO OFFICE.

They exist...but so do T-Rex Bones....and soon enough they will join such bones in Museums.

AboveAlpha

 

Ultra conservatives have always hated Jews and Catholics (especially Irish Catholics) as well. On my fathers side, his great grandfather came here as a Jew from Poland. He was an amazing doctor, but he couldn't get hired in any town he went to out west because he identified as Jewish. He eventually converted to some protestant denomination because of it and was finally able to get a job. Good thing they didn't have Facebook back in the day lol.

In general, conservatives hate anything that's new and/or different. That's while its called conservatism. To bad most of them are not Roosevelt conservatives who want to protect the environment.

 

Nazi Germany was defeated in wartime, but National Socialism was a failure in it's own right. Which countries have adopted it as a governing philosophy since World War II?

Anyway you have not even responded to the question posed in the thread. I think because you know you can't write a speculation as to what the world would be like today if the Nazi's had won without making it sound ridiculous.

 

I actually agree. I hate that they exist, but I think its one of the signs of strength in our system that they are able to exist, and even propagate their hate so long as no one gets hurt. In most Euro countries they would get rounded up and thrown in jail for most of the stuff you can hear them say in public here.

Europe is so keen on punching out fascism that its become a bit totalitarian in some ways.

 

[MENTION=63035]CJtheModerate[/MENTION]:

I'm going to do you a favor and save you a whole lot of time.

http://www.politicalforum.com/zionist-agenda/317262-evidence-holocaust.html

Every shred of "Holocaust" evidence is found in this thread and is revealed for what it is, which is a whole lot of bunk. You may as well read through it yourself and see what kind of success it had when put up against common sense scrutiny.

 

You're going to have to define its failure. All you're doing is making an assertion without any basis in reality.
The objective of the Allies was to completely destroy the ideology of National Socialism, which is why it has not been seen in the Western world since. It has been suppressed, despite how natural it comes to people, which is part of why it is so successful as an ideology.

If you want the name of a nation now using a form of National Socialism, however, and with great success, I'll be happy to give you one.

Israel.

 

The same could be said about Holocaust Denial.

I do not deny that some newspapers called for it. I deny the so called "International conspiracy" to destroy Germany. Newspaper clippings do not prove an international conspiracy by the Jews.

Buchenwald Concentration Camp was liberated by the United States. It was a death camp.

If I am not mistaken, the 6,000,000 number came from Nazi records.

 

You're horribly mistaken. Do yourself a favor and read through the thread you were given. If you're more interested in truth than you are perpetuating lies, you won't finish it believing 6,000,000 Jews were gassed to death in extermination chambers.

No, Buchenwald was not a death camp.

 

You are so full of crap it is funny!! And sick! LOL!!!

I have already posted on another one of your Pro-Hitler threats a list of Concentration Camps liberated by both U.S. and Soviet Forces.

I have post photos from the U.S. Military.

You are living in FANTASY LAND.

AboveAlpha

 

While you're at it, you can wrap the testimony of these "survivors" around your head, and ask yourself how this could be during a process of "extermination."
[video=youtube;8XSj9XgXA5Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XSj9XgXA5Q[/video]

 

Who claims 6 million Jews were gassed?

 

CJTheModerate does, which is a result of Jewish propaganda that so heavily and thoroughly saturates and dominates American media.
It's why I can't even blame him for believing such a ridiculous fable.

 

I notice you dont supply one citation, other than the comment from a fellow poster

 

How do you explain the Nazi records which show that the Holocaust happened?

You are correct on that. My mistake.

 

No such records exist. I've never once shrunk from truth in my entire life. If you can direct me to them, I'd be more than happy to revise my opinion.
However, since every fanatical Zionist on this forum had no such luck in doing so, I doubt you, a new comer to the topic, will have much luck.
Just read the thread. Make an hour of it to better your historical knowledge of the time period. [MENTION=59038]mikemikev[/MENTION] does a superb job at exposing all of it for what it is. Unless you consider name-calling and relentlessly referring to other posters as "anti-Semitic" as evidence, you'll be forced to revise your position.

 

Jewish radicals were happy to let the world believe that 6,000,000 Jews were gassed to death in extermination chambers until historians and forensic scientists started blowing massive holes in that narrative. Now they all say "We never said that" after having used all their power in the media and academia to push the story for a half a century. The poster who made the claim didn't pull it out of thin air. It was part of his education, so let's not play that game of "nobody ever said that." It's been said, 6,000,000 times over.

 

Why are you struggling to show me claims of 6 millions being gassed?

 

There is no one document that said "The Holocaust happened". During the Nurenburg Trials, the persecutors pieced together the operations during the holocaust using the millions of documents they retrieved.

You know, I am getting really tired of this. How about we turn this around and have you PROVE beyond any reasonable doubt that the Holocaust is just a massive lie. Do not point me towards some thread. Give me a list of things that conclusively prove that the Holocaust is nothing but a piece of fiction. If that is the truth, it should be easy.

 

So by your standards, Israel is the most advanced and enlightened Western nation on the planet.

What are the elements of Israel's political economy that reflect National Socialist policies?

 

You keep mentioning documents while at the same time don't actually know of any. You made the claim that "6,000,000 Jews were gassed" and keep eluding to some mysterious documents that you yourself aren't aware of. The Holocaust is nothing more than a stage name. This is the second time in this thread that you have said, "If that is the truth, it should be easy." If that is the case, why haven't you produced your "millions of documents" yet? Shouldn't it be easy?

 

Alternative history is one of my favorite subjects. Not enough books about such subjects for my taste.

At any rate had he won ( and he could have, it can even be argued he came close ) I doubt if he would have taken over the USA. Britain and Russia sure but mounting an invasion force from all the way across the atlantic would not have been logistically feasible for the Germans for a long time. By then both sides probably would have acquired Nuclear weapons resulting in a cold war stand off. Perhaps instead of Vietnam and Korea some other brush fire wars would have been fought in places like Africa or Central America to stop the spread of naziism. Although we would probably see a larger and more powerful nazi political party here in the USA.

I think the memory of the holocaust would have been lost The nazis would have done their best to bury the truth and downplayed the whole thing making it the stuff of rumors with little corraborating evidence. Much the same way the Soviets did with their genocides until the fall of the USSR. We would probably be more aware about the genocide under the soviets however since Hitler and Goebbels probably would have advertised the evidence in order to distract from their own mass murders. Without the germans scientists we had after WWII our space program may have stalled and the nazis might have beaten us to the moon or even in other space races such as establishing a space station.

The big alternative history question to me is how long would the Third Reich have survived? Would it have been brought to it's knees as the Soviets were by Reagan or would it have lasted a thousand years?

Perhaps it would have been successfully overthrown from within. Many assassination attempts were made against Hitler. Perhaps if he had won the war a successful coup may have been launched by the Wehrmacht.

As I said not as many books about these ideas as I would like. One exception is called Moon of Ice. It's told almost as a diary from the point of view of one of Goebbels daughters who would have survived if they had won the war. In the book she betrays the reich and becomes an American Hero. Another book was made into a movie starring Rutger Hauer. I can't remember the name but it involved an SS officer who discovers top secret documents in the 1960s concerning the holocaust and dies trying to get the documents to the US government.

I'd love to hear of any other such stories.

 

Enlighten Yourself

 

Is it really that difficult to identify? A Nationalist Socialist state based on ethnicity? Of course, it differs slightly from the German model, but these differences are reflected in the differences between the German character and the Jewish one (the former places higher value on actual work...) The ideological purpose of both states are virtually identical. National Socialism borrowed from Zionism before the war and Zionism borrowed heavily from National Socialism following the war.

Netanyahu may require DNA tests to prove Jewish bloodline:
http://mondoweiss.net/2013/08/netan...prove-immigrants-have-a-jewish-bloodline.html
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2...ernment-demand-dna-tests-to-prove-jewishness/
http://jewsandjoes.com/can-dna-tell-me-if-i-have-jewish-or-10-israel-hebrew-ancestry.html



Is it really that difficult to figure out?
Jewish centric education, focus on the Jews as a unique a special people, instilling of racial pride in the youth:




Not really that hard to connect the dots here. It is a state designated as a Jewish homeland with a heavy emphasis on racial pride and mandatory military service.

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Again, I'm not going to do your homework for you and dig through document after document only to find nothing in the hopes of making your argument for you.
Show me. You have such great command of the issue, I'm sure you can find the correct documents proving the extermination of 6,000,000 Jews much faster than I can.