Asthmatic? EPA wants you to suffer

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  1. Trinnity

    Trinnity Banned

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    Yeah the title is inflammatory. I'm mad as hell. The EPA is dangerous and tyrannical.
    Check this out:

    People: how much longer are you gonna let a tyrannical govt and it's bully agencies rule you?
    How much longer are you gonna let them tell you the Earth and the animals/plants matter more than your life?
    How much longer are you gonna let them (*)(*)(*)(*) down your back and tell you it's rainin'?

    I wonder which one of his buddies Obama is enriching now?

    This is about money and power, NOT the environment.
    Fight back !!!
     
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    Trinnity Banned

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    Tell me why the EPA and make someone's Asthma inhaler go from $20 to $30-$60 ???
     
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    Why don't you ask George W. Bush?

    That decision was finalized during his administration.

    From http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44627...-inhalers-be-phased-out-protect-ozone-layer/# (via weelkystandard.com)
     
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    Tell me how the EPA increased the price first? Oh no, they didn't. As stated GWB signed a law to reduce our emissions, the free market should have looked after the price but it hasn't - oh free market, why have you failed us again.

    PS - I notice with interest that you haven't returned to your thread since it was established that it was the fault of GWB, not Obama.

    *Run away, run away*
     
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    Baiting me will do you no good, Leffe. It's a frequent ploy of yours on others and it's lame.

    Regulations always add cost to products because they create layers of requirements that mean extra paperwork or costly changes in the composition, packaging or manufacturing of said products.

    It's telling that you cheer-lead for the bureaucracy, govt, and EPA when we have too much of them. There's a point where the aforementioned are a detriment to us all as their effect on the price of inhalers proves.
     
  7. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again the ban on these inhalers stems from a treaty Reagan signed nearly 30 years ago.
     
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    But this is not the case. The product was banned, therefore the price of producing it did not increase.

    There are other manufacturers of these devices which are available. They are more expensive as they are in less demand, when the demand rises, manufacturing will increase, reducing the cost per unit. Companies will start to compete, invest in R&D to produce cheaper models and the free market will take care of the price. Simple.

    Being as this regulation was signed by a Republican, there was bound to be a free-market explaination...
     
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    Charming.

    The simple fact is this ban predates the current administration and goes beyond the EPA.

    Furthermore, in 2007, the FDA advisory panel recommended this product be pulled as it's efficacy was not only questionable, but dubious.

    In 2007.

    So we have a Reagan era treaty that bans the propellant, and an FDA advisory panel from 2007 that says the (*)(*)(*)(*) simply does not work and somehow the articel in the OP seems to blame the current administration.

    I think that is the pinnacle of partisan hackery, when despite all of the facts present and available pointing otherwise, folks still manage to blame the president.
     
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    Suit yourself, Leffe. You've proven nothing.
    I stand by my contention that the EPA overreaches on a daily basis.
     
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    the costs of my wifes inhaler went from 12 bucks copay to 30 ?? this was about 2 years ago , We used Primatene Mist if she ran out before the scrip could be refilled , I do not care who signed the bill into law I just it hits my pocketbook pretty hard
     
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    Indeed, that sucks.

    However, the makers of Primatene Mist have had three years to come up with a different product or to improve their current product. They did not do either.

    Now there is no doubt that epinephrine works for some, but was it effective enough to justify marketing it to people with asthma? The FDA advisory panel did not think so.
     
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    So my logic is correct. You don't need to apologise, but all I'm saying is that I come here not to argue but to educate myself with the views of others. If you want to treat this like a competition, all well and good, but you're missing something.
     
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    This is the important point. American companies used to be the inovators, now they prefer the status quo - it's a shame.
     
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    Keep telling yourself that, over and over, LOL.
    I didn't. You're deluding yourself and your condescension is pointless.
    That's funny coming from you.
    You're making assumptions because I've never treated it that way. I'm here for specific reasons. Competition is not one of them.
     
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    Indeed it is.
     
  17. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Charming.

    Not sure what this has to do with the thread topic here.

    Clearly the current administration has nothing to do with this medicine being pulled for a variety of reasons.
     
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    Price cut wins approval of drug...
    :cool:
    GSK biotech asthma drug wins UK approval after extra price cut
    December 1, 2016 - GlaxoSmithKline's new injectable asthma drug Nucala has been recommended for use in Britain's state-run health service in the most severe patients, after the drugmaker provided further analyses on its use and made an additional price cut.
     
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    Deja Moo! Thats a real blast from the past! It was bull(*)(*)(*)(*) then too.
     

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