Astronomers find first planet with a high potential for life.

It's highly improbable that life only exists on Earth, considering Billions upon Billions
of galaxies.

My only argument is semantics...look at the title of the article...

"Astronomers find first planet with a high potential for life"

It's a presupposition based on speculative data...

Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for "after this, therefore because of this,"
is a logical fallacy."

Since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one.

Life emerged here on Earth because the conditions exist to support life...
The conditions created life...therefore anywhere these conditions exist will produce life.

I'm not disputing the actual astrophysicists' theories..and indeed this planet
from the article might harbor life...but it's a sensational article without really any
supporting evidence...that life actually exists...only the conditions might exist.

Realizing all the "pseudo science" intellectuals on this forum like to slam my comments...I seriously doubt any of them have advanced degrees in any subject..let
alone a scientific one....

"you don't know what your're talking about" sort of tripe...

My criticism is based on simple logic...and bears no criticism towars the actual astrophysics
methodology.

It's sensationalism really...
and Science like any other human endeavor needs funding...and sensationalism keeps
the topic in the public's mindset...to justify the funding.

Life has not been found on this distant "Earth" like planet...
the conditions may exist to support life, as we know it anyway, and that's about it.

The rest is conjecture.

 

Project much?
I said nothing of that sort.

I'm sorry your existence is so paltry it depends upon bacterium found 91 million light years from Earth
to validate it.

There is no DIRECT evidence supporting complex life, sentient life...outside of Earth...only
speculative hypothesis based upon probabilities.

again...that conditions are the only causation...

a logical fallacy.

Maybe if you put the tinfoil hat back on...ET might contact you, and you can prove me wrong...

As I've said...life probably exists somewhere out there...maybe even sentient life.

The odds are definetly in that favor, and if I were a betting man, I'd put money on it...
but to date?

No evidence of it...just that the right conditions for it to exist...have been discovered..that certainly doesn't
mean it therefore exists.

 

This is a photo of "life as we know it". So whatever is out there; It's bound to be mimicked somewhere on 'mother earth'.

 

You do realise that while the US has an unemployment rate going out of control Australia has practically full employment? No, you wouldn't because you run your mouth without ever understanding anything.

We have evidence of life existing on Earth and that's it and since scientists like evidence that's what they look for until they find evidence of something else.

Understand yet?

 

After an exciting discovery of a habitable earth-like planet, skepticism settles back in as a second team of scientists casts some doubt on the claim. Nicknamed Gliese 581 g, the planet in case stirred up the scientific world, promising to be the holy graal of exoplanets after it was discovered by Steven Vogt of the University of California, Santa Cruz, Paul Butler of the Carnegie Institution of Washington in DC, and their colleagues.
However, a second team of astronomers have looked in their own data and failed to find anything suggesting the existence of Gliese.

Read more: http://www.zmescience.com/space/earth-like-planet-gliese-may-not-exist-20102010/#ixzz1YdhrOCdD


Understand yet?

The discovery was probably hyped to increase public awareness and funding...
even without peer review that the planet even exists....well now there's peer review.

 

It's how science works. It's a self correcting process. Understand yet?

 

and my initial post showed skepticism....

and I got berated because of it...

I will fully admit I am not a scientist.

I just don't jump on the band wagon right away without solid, peer reviewed
and substantiated evidence done by other legitimate scientists...

Have a good one...

The planet could still exist of course, but under peer review it does cast an element of doubt.

 

I don't know how anyone here was jumping on the bandwagon. There may be intelligent life in numerous places or it may be very rare. No one knows yet.

 

IT's very rare here!!

 

Cassini nabs stardust...

Cassini Probe Catches Interstellar Stardust
April 15, 2016 - The Cassini space probe, which has been circling Saturn since 2004, has detected interstellar dust, according to a new study.

 

And here!

 

Why does "Life" need to start in the way it did here?

Do we simply lack the imagination to think otherwise?

Are we this human centric?

Why not life on Titan that uses liquid methane or Eyeless fish thingies in the oceans of Europa?

 

Its very hard to define what 'life' actually is.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/

 

Yes, there might well be, and when it's found then we want to be told about it. But what is the bloody point of this non-stop speculation? What purpose does it serve other than provide lucrative non-jobs for so-called astrophysicists?

 

I don't believe anyone thinks there can't be other forms of beings but we are typically talking about 'life as we know it'. I'm guessing mankind is eager to find some long lost relatives that we can either conquer or fear...

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The definition of 'life' will be a work in progress each time we make new discoveries...

 

Well when they find it it will become news. Until then it isn't, nothing but pointless speculation and we can all speculate. Especially if we're getting paid for it??

 

Science has done a lot of magnificent things for mankind. However when it comes to the universe, it is nothing but lies. Some scientists help in the political realm. Such as pro life, and if the cells are to be considered life at the earliest stages. A lot of them will say it is not life yet, and an abortion could be considered humane. However these same scientists will tell you, if they find any sort of cells or organisms on another planet, it will be considered life on another planet. Hypocrites, that are fascinated by finding cells on another planet, but not fascinated by life of their own realm.

 

I couldn't have put it better myself! 'Real science' and 'fake science' are two entirely different er, sciences!

 

There in not a single scientist I have EVER heard of that would state that cells are not life...Human, Alien......whatever. As far as the Universe....what exactly do you think science lies about, considering science is the only reason we even know there is one? Science does not "Help" the pro-life movement, nor does it do so for pro-choice...it reports data both use in argument just like everyone else.

 

These are discoveries, not conclusions.

 

I'm not a biologist, but one argument is that carbon is more conducive to certain processes than most other common elements.

 

This is accurate, and water is a better solvent. But better does not imply only.

 

What about the Tholians?
A highly advanced sentient — apparently crystalline species, non-humanoid in appearance and
extremely territorial in disposition. They hail from a hot planet by human standards.

 

Tholians are pretty cool, but Tatraselines got them beat....they are plasma based and the females are super hot.