Atheists cannot disbelieve or reject GOD without defining HIM.

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  1. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I cried in Passion of Christ. That was way too intense.
     
  2. Heretic

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    You're making fantastical claims by defining GOD as "her". That's disgusting.

    You need to defend your definition of GOD, BEFORE you can claim not to believe in HIM, simple atheist. Atheism is intellectually bankrupt. They don't even know what God means. How can you reject the existence of a word, a concept, a spiritual being, a way of life, morality, ethics, WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING WHAT IT MEANS FIRST?!?!?!??!?!??!?!

    Atheists claim not to believe in GOD, but, do they even really know what they're trying to doubt????????? Osiris Faction proves no, atheists don't even know what they're talking about on the simplest level. This demonstrates substandard intellectual practice, from atheists. Atheism is inferior to theism, intellectually.

    More scientists are CHRISTIAN than atheist, another PROOF that atheism has no real validity and should not be taken seriously, as a religion that it is.
     
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    So part of your definitive exposition of who God is involves him having a penis, is that right? Standing on the penis doctrine is very important to you, and somehow determines the worth of your deity?

    I don't think atheists want to be taken seriously as a religion. It is Christians who find it important to categorize them like that.
     
  4. Heretic

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    TRUE CHRISTIANS refer to GOD as HIM, HE, HEAVENLY FATHER, and masculine, because we recognize the inherent difference between MAN and woman. Woman is inferior to man, spiritually. Woman cannot bear the RESPONSIBILITY of a spiritually strong life. Why as CHRIST also a MAN, not a woman? Think about it. Think about the SACRIFICE that HE has to give, in order to FORGIVE the SINS of all other men.

    Could a woman do this? No, absolutely NOT! Women are not men. A spiritual man, like CHRIST, demonstrates that it is possible for a MAN to take the responsibility of ALL OTHERS onto His shoulders. Men are responsible for other people. Women are not. Women are more selfish, emotional, and less intellectual and less spiritual than men.

    Women cannot rise to any level of spiritual GREATNESS, that we all see in CHRIST or GOD, GOD who is ABSOLUTE.
     
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    You don't know many women, do you?
    What you are is a captive of a first century patriarchal mindset that is about power, not spirituality, and I can show you why this is true.
    You think men are the spiritual superiors of women, that they stand above, but one of your consistent arguments is that in this current environment of female empowerment women are able to use their sexual enticement to gain power over men, by giving or withholding sexual favors. This indicates a moral and spiritual inferiority in men, that they are incapable of controlling their desires by tapping into their superior spriritual strengths to overcome their "animal" side, as you like to refer to it. In your world view, men are so weak that they can be led around like dogs on a leash because of their desire for the female body. Women are the more powerful sex, as they can more readily control their sexual desires, according to you. How are these poor, pathetic men to be expected to be the spiritual exemplars for a community, when it is the women who actually have control of their "animal" side?
    You are a constant source of entertainment, though, and I appreciate you coming to PF to allow almost everyone on here to feel a sense of superiority over at least one other human being.
    I will be praying for your enlightenment.
     
  6. Heretic

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    No, this is perverted. Men AND women who have sex for pleasure only, and exclude procreation, are PERVERTS, SEXUAL DEVIANTS, and SINNERS. It is a SIN directly against GOD, to have sex and to purposely exclude the possibility of having children. This proves that both parties, man or woman, are committing a CRIME. This crime is sex for pleasure only, perversion, which leads to all kinds of illnesses we see today. Zionism, homosexuality, pedophilia, abortion, murder, all sorts of crimes, caused by SIN. If women could learn some self-control, then things might be different. But women are too irresponsible to expect ANYTHING from them. So, we must focus on men. This is TRULY CHRISTIAN. Within the tenants of Christianity, we've recognized for thousands of years that women are incapable of self-control, or reasonable insight. Women are not spiritually motivated or inspiring. Just about every Saint, Prophet, Priest, or spiritual leader worth mention, is male.

    Women are not spiritual creatures, but men are. Christ was a MAN, not a woman, why????? Answer this, and you'll understand everything. It takes a MAN to truly care for and "save" other people. It takes a SON OF GOD to truly change the world, and the nature of men.


    No, men can overcome animal nature, and instinct, by reason and KNOWING GOD.


    No.........that's YOUR LIBERAL view, brucey.


    No, women cannot control their sexual desires. Men CAN.


    I will pray for YOUR Enlightenment.
     
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    Christians eat babies.

    See? I can be a really bad troll too.
     
  8. Heretic

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    Just because YOU cannot control YOUR sexual desires, Prof_Sarcastic, doesn't mean that all other men cannot. Some men have dignity, pride, and will refuse to be led around by the pretty face or body of a woman. Your sexual weaknesses do not reflect on all other men, Prof_Sarcastic.

    Typical liberal
     
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    Typical troll
     
  10. Heretic

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    You just need to focus on this accusation, because you cannot address the argument that you atheists cannot disbelieve in GOD without first defining Him. This destroys your atheistic premise of doubt and unbelief. You are exposed as a hypocrite now. You CLAIM to "not believe" in something you clearly don't understand.

    This ought to feel embarrassing and demoralizing for you. You claim to "reject" something that you don't even understand. What's worse is this, atheists don't realize that GOD'S EXISTENCE IS OBJECTIVE, and does not require subjective approval from some animal, to exist. How subjective and unintelligent can some atheists be???? Atheists are so vain, to believe that God's existence revolves around THEM, are you serious?!?!??!?! That's actually how you see GOD, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH?????????????
     
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    I addressed that argument. Twice.

    Fail troll is fail.
     
  12. Please Let Me Vote

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    I dont know where to start, I think I will hang my head in disgust, frustration, etc.

    More CHRISTIANS are ignorant hypocrites than not...
     
  13. Heretic

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    You didn't address the argument, professor "sarcastic".

    You're sarcastic, not serious, so please, don't waste anymore brain cells than you already have. You will be ignored from here on out, along with "rahl". You and he are both now on my "no response" list. Addressing you is a waste of my time.
     
  14. thebrucebeat

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    Don't do that.
    Be amused. Amazed maybe.
    This guy doesn't represent the typical Christian. There are many that have embraced the real beauty of Christ. This guy is a very sad outlier. There are others here, of course, but they aren't looking for the beauty of Jesus. They are just afraid to die.
     
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    I haven't met anyone that thinks you are credible on here. Why isn't everyone on ignore?
     
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    No, many people who call themselves "Christian" are nothing of the sort of what CHRIST truly represented. Christ did not say "Judge nobody, ever". Christ said "Judge not LEST YE BE JUDGED!" This means, that Christians OUGHT TO JUDGE OTHERS, but we must first recognize SIN. Once you recognize sin, good, and evil, then you cannot be a hypocrite.

    If I steal from somebody, then I cannot JUDGE THIEVES, and condemn others for stealing. That's what Christ meant, NOTHING ELSE!!!!!!!! I can cast the first stone, when I am without sin.

    Secondly, Christianity and Liberalism is incompatible. TRUE CHRISTIANS respect women, and give value to CHASTITY and VIRGINITY. You cannot be a slut, a whore, and CHRISTIAN. That doesn't work. It's incompatible. Liberal sexual values are ANTI-CHRISTIAN, PRO-ZIONISM, PRO-SATAN. Liberals want to sexualize children as young as possible, because they are perverts and pedophiles. They want to educate young boys and girls that they're "gay". They want a seven year old to be "gay".

    That's disgusting. These pedophiles, PERVERTS, NEED. TO. STOP. NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No more tolerance. No more tolerance for liberals, whose irresponsibility is OUT OF CONTROL! Liberals need to end this destructive behavior, it's destroying what is left of our ONCE GREAT NATION. We need to turn things around, infuse TRADITIONAL, TRULY CHRISTIAN VALUES, and make our nation into a TWICE GREAT NATION!
     
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    No, this is your argument, and you've made it often. Men are so weak that women can use their sexuality to turn this into a matriarchal society. I agree, this is stupid, childish, insane, but it is not MY argument. It is yours. It has nothing to do with what liberals think, or what I think. This is your argument. Do you want me to quote the many times you have made this argument?
    This is why you are entertaining and make us all feel so empowered about our own reasoning powers, even those who have a limited amount of them. They are still far more developed than yours.
    I honestly think you are possessed. Any takers on this theory?
     
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    You ever had a twice baked potato? Delicious, but it's still a potato. America is still a nation, a man-made construction, fallible and vulnerable. Always was and always will be.
     
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    Think about the consequences, Brucey. If women "takeover", and use this free, perverted sexuality, then what are the consequences???????

    Free abortion, free murder of babies, free infanticide, sexualization of children, perversion of all morality, decency, civilization. That is what matriarchal values will bring, complete IRRESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!!!! Free sex? Nothing is free. And SIN proves this. GOD proves this. When a nation wallows in SIN, then there is no true happiness or contentment. We are not looking at the true problem, or attacking the true cause for these CRIMES and EVILS.

    That crime is SIN, sex for pleasure only. Liberalism promotes this, liberalism revolves around SIN, about promoting sex for pleasure ONLY. That's why liberals support homosexuality, even though they are not homosexuals themselves, making them hypocrites. That's why liberals support abortion, even though liberal men cannot have abortions themselves, making them hypocrites.

    That's why LIBERALS support PEDOPHILIA and all other forms of sexual perversion. Because that is ALL "liberalism" is about, really, truly, when you get to the core of it. That's all it is.
     
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    Please post a citation that comingles liberals with pedophilia. Not a ranting whacko, but a legitimate source that shows that the majority of liberals are actively pushing toward the acceptance of pedophilia.
    We'll wait.
    (You poor thing...)
     
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    I think what many people fail to understand is that 'belief' and $2.34 will get you a vente hot coffee at Starbucks. Another thing they fail to understand is that you cannot prove a 'belief' using a large pile of other 'beliefs'.
     
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    This should be enough?
     
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    I don't believe that existence itself deserves to be called Yahweh, Allah or any other fancy name associated with mythological sky gods.
     
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    Why not, doesn't existence itself deserve a name, isn't a name for existence itself USEFUL to us mortal beings? Why do you reject the WORD OF GOD?
     
  25. Prof_Sarcastic

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    I wonder how one goes from saying post #57 is a "great start", to pretending that I didn't even address the argument.

    I don't blame you for not wanting to respond to me any more though - trolls want people to respond angrily, and you're a total failure at trolling me.
     

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