Atheists create thousands of Christian martyrs during French Revolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dechristianisation_of_France_during_the_French_Revolution

The wholesale slaughter of thousands of priests, nuns and religious people during the French Revolution proves that atheists are dangerous when they have the upper hand.

 

Do the crusades and inquisition similarly prove that theists are dangerous when they have the upper hand, then? Or does it just show that some people are brutally violent regardless of (lack of) belief?

 

It's a matter of scale, of time and space.

Christianity has been dominant in the West for something like 1500 years and during that time Christians have occasionally become violent and murderous, but that has been the exception, not the rule.

Atheism has had a much shorter period of time during which it was dominant, and yet, in that time it committed genocides on a massive nationwide scale, and the violence did not end until atheism was overthrown.

I don't know the raw numbers, but its something like comparing the water in Big Bear Lake to the water in the Pacific Ocean.

 

wowzers...it had nothing to do with atheists, the church hierarchy was targeted because it was allied to the nobility and status quo...the Pope/roman catholic church granted Divine Right of Rule to the Monarchy and the Monarchy supported the church hierarchy in exchange...the revolutionaries demanded the separation of church and state and achieved it by separating Royal and Clerical heads from shoulders...

 

what you don't know is history, the history of europe for the past 2000yrs has been one of constant warfare, the period since the 2nd WW has been the most peaceful ever, and atheism has never been as popular as since ww2

 

Here is a list of every bad thing ever done by a Christian:

http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

The site is misleading because it includes battles, things that were not done in the name of Christianity, etc. but this is a worst case scenario. And it looks like the author is really stretching to blame Christianity for everything bad that ever happened ever.

This is a period of 2,000 years. I leave it to you to count the people killed, because no summary is given.

Compare to Communism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

Communists killed 94 millions people in a period of less than a century.

 

Let's not ignore the Catholic genocide of the Huguenots (Protestants) aided by Papal troops funded by the Vatican.

 

http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm you'd need many more pages to list all the conflicts...numbers of dead need to kept relative to population...entire swaths of countryside could be depopulated in religious conflicts numbers of dead may not have been that high in comparison to modern conflicts but in pure percentage they could be just as or more devastating....

chinese dead during communism are a wild guesstimate and like soviet deaths often the result of agricultural collective mismanagement rather then genocide...

conveniently there is no mention of Hitler a Roman Catholic and his religious war on the jews or the 30-40 million dead in europe...

vietnam-many deaths were related to US involvement
Philippines-what no mention of the US genocide and death camps?

 

Prithee, name one thing done in the name of atheism.

 

Might want to tell that to the peasants of Vendee...

In all seriousness, it's once again a sign that perhaps extremists aren't really that good for society as a whole.

 

I dunno.....the Amish aren't too bad. When you get to the fundamentals is when you see a belief system in its true form and at its foundation.

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Atheists don't really do well when they have the power. The bloody age of enlightenment made even our Jefferson a little more Christian. He at least realized the importance of morality.

 

I find the problem isn't extremistism in terms of placement, just how much you believe in the ideology and how much you want to compromise is the actual issue. I can get along with moderate libertarians, but even I'll have a hard time agreeing with an extremist.

 

I disagree. An ideology is either bad or it is good. Moderation may water an ideology or religion down enough where it won't be destructive---but at its foundation the truth is there regarding whether that ideology or religion is healthy or unhealty. Benign or toxic.

And looking at the fundamental practicers can tell you a lot about that.

And you shouldn't have to agree with someone to like them or appreciate them. My extended family are extreme liberals. I'm an extreme righty. But we get a long fine (as long as we ignore politics)

 

There is no such thing as good or bad. It's our perspective that make it so.

But on the point of your family and you. That's fine that you can get that relationship to work. I hate racists, but when Libhater posts something funny, I'll laugh. But when we talk about something else, it's hard to find common ground. It's that what makes him (or I technically speaking) extremist.

 

Let's not let facts get in the way of his ignorant rants.

 

If it helps...Libhater thinks he's a racist but he's actually not. I know for a fact he'd welcome Herman Cain into whatever clubs he belongs too because they'd be fast friends.

 

Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, even Jews if you go back far enough. They all demonstrate the dangers of ideology. People kill for ideologies, and many religions are ideological in nature.

 

Christians fought each other in the US, 1861-64 and slaughtered 650,000....of each other....

 

Add up every war ever between Christians and any other religion and its still fewer than those killed by atheistic Communists.

 

Name one of those atheists and show us why you believe that person to have been atheist.

 

*L* I doubt this. You think the Communists can compare to the 30 Years War, for instance?

Here, ya goof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years'_War

Naw. But there also remains your foolishness in tying Communism to atheism, because not all Communists are atheists. You think the Russians all became atheists overnight as soon as the Communists took over? Puh-leeze.

 

Because it's fair to compare a century where the population was less than 2 billion in 1900 and was near 6 billion when it ended with times where the population of the world was less than some countries today.

 

The French Revolution ripped the power away from the Church and gave it back to where it belonged, with the state. The Church has never forgotten nor forgiven.

 

OP has very little understanding of the era and what religious institutions represented .
In the 16th century Balkans monasteries were responsible for tax collection , Ottomans charged christians with 10% tax and the priesthood could ask for whatever they like over that tax . Because the church was under the protection of the empire villagers couldn't touch it so they either converted to tax free islam or moved into exclusively muslim areas .
In France (and the rest of western Europe) the monasteries and the priesthood were leeches under (or sometimes over) the banner of the aristocracy pillaging the income of the poor , exploiting the serfs and burning people for heresy & witchcraft , if i was a French farmer back in the day i wouldn't leave anyone of them alive .

 

Did you by chance read any of that garbage you linked to?

Also in all that where does it say (atheists) non believers were responsible for any of it? Look for any excuse to cry "PERSECUTION" won't you?