Attacking the Press is a Attack on the First Amendment

I would say we should address this thin skinned President whose legacy is the erosion of the Press Freedoms before we discuss Trump ---- unless you can document a DOJ investigation launched by Trump.

If listening to fabricated stories masquerading as news makes you feel good, you can continue to get your drivel from MSLSD, CNN and the rest of the Fake News outlets. I prefer real news and opinion that doesn't masquerade as news --- so I will continue to watch news during the day and opinion at night on Fox and listen to Limbaugh when I'm in my car. MSLSD, CNN, and the NYT are alone in destroying their own credibility.

Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report

Olivier Knox
The TicketMay 20, 2013
https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ti...-fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-134204299.html

2013 Department of Justice investigations of reporters
Associated Press
On May 13, 2013, the Associated Press announced telephone records for 20 of their reporters during a two-month period in 2012 had been subpoenaed by the Justice Department. AP reported the Justice Department would not say why it sought the records, but news sources noted the US Attorney's office for the District of Columbia was conducting a criminal investigation into a May 7, 2012 Associated Press story about a CIA operation which prevented the Yemeni terrorist Fahd al-Quso's plot to detonate an explosive device on a commercial flight.[1] The DOJ did not direct subpoenas to the Associated Press; instead, the subpoenas were issued to their telephone providers, including Verizon Wireless.[2]

The AP claimed these acts were a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into news-gathering operations.[3][4] Gary Pruitt, CEO of the Associated Press stated: "These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP's newsgathering operations and disclose information about AP's activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Department_of_Justice_investigations_of_reporters

Obama Blames ‘Right-Wing Radio’ for Making ‘People Think Big Government is the Problem’
"It's pumped into cars and bars and VFW halls all across America."
Truth Revolt | Trey Sanchez - June 2, 2016
President Obama visited Elkhart, Indiana on Wednesday and during a town hall meeting blamed “right-wing radio” for distorting his economic record and for making “people think big government is the problem.”
https://www.infowars.com/obama-blam...g-people-think-big-government-is-the-problem/

 

Nothing in the 1st amendment makes the executive allow certain elite press organizations access to the WH press corps. The freedom of speech shall not be infringed, and from that right, the freedom of the press may also not be infringed. Freedom of speech + freedom to associate = freedom of the press.

I would direct your anger towards his proposal to expand defamation law to what it is in Europe and Australia. We don't hold free speech in especially high regard in the rest of the developed world, and it's likely that a reform of defamation law would severely restrict the right of individuals to criticize or offend others. This is what the left should be attacking as far as Trump's 1st amendment cred goes.

 

Where did OP go?

 

No. SILENCING the press would be a violation of the First Amendment. The president also has a First Amendment right to voice his opinion, and a right to determine who gets to go in the White House. Now, as to Trump's thin skin - well here we agree. Anyone who has to continually remind you how awesome he is? Not so awesome...

 

Your history is lacking. Obama allowed Bill O'Reilly to interview him before the Super Bowl. FOX's 8+ years of character lies of Obama were unprecedented. Actually quite pathetic. MSM attacks Trump on tweeting and statements, but not about his character, even though they could harp on locker room banter over and over (FOX would, if the tables were turned).

 

Not allowing particular press stations to sit inside the press room is not restricting their freedom to report what they wish. They can see what the president says on the television as most people do. Does your first amendment say reporters must have the right to ask the president questions? What if a reporter from my college paper wishes to ask the president a question in the White House press room, must the president allow the reporter inside?

Also, I would think that when president Trump attacks your press with insults he is not attacking the first amendment rights of the press but instead he is exercising his own first amendment privilege. If he were to try to silence the press or control what the press can report then I would view this as an attack.

I watch CNN and if president Trump is restricting their first amendment rights then I would say he is doing very poorly because they are very critical of him. If Trump were like the leader of Russia, like Putin, then all the people on CNN would perish in an unfortunate fire. That is the first step towards dictatorship.

 

Making sense in the USA is currently not permitted at this time lol. Maybe in 2020 sensible conversation might come back.

 

Maybe there's no sense but there's much more entertainment in your political system now. Scary and intriguing all at once.

To note; I was editing my first post while you were quoting me because I misread the original post in this conversation.

 

The press has the right to print/say what they want but they do not have the right to be invited to any Presidential briefing. They are there at the pleasure of the President. The press conferences I have seen show a room packed full of reporters, most of whom are obviously biased against Trump. Why include the truly psychotic left media?

 

You mean like wiretapping journalists and going after the AP? Oh wait, that was Obama. Nevermind.

You guys are funny, and hey, those banished from the island can watch it on TV like the rest of us and mail in some questions.

Listening to all the liberals crying about this is akin to basking on a white sand beach with a cold one in my hand.

 

No-------------actually pointing out how one sided and in the tank for the DNC the liberal press is, is the right thing to do. The left wing press as journalist has become a joke, and a laughing stock. Polls show the trust of the left wing press is clear down with that of Congress.

 

Nobody ever said that you just totally made that up out of the far Blue Yonder

 

Maybe Maddow will have a special tonight on Trump's questionable receipts that tie him to a known Russian McDonalds.

 

Another dishonest thread. It's just difficult to understand all those people who said nothing while their messiah Obama was prosecuting and intimidating all those journalist across the USA and further. Even spying on foreign journalists. Where were you? Your messiah Obama prosecuted more journalists than all other U.S presidents together. And you complain about Trump. Beggars belief!

If Donald Trump Targets Journalists, Thank Obama

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/...ump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html?_r=0

But critics say the crackdown has had a much greater chilling effect on press freedom than Mr. Obama acknowledges. In a scathing 2013 report for the Committee to Protect Journalists, Leonard Downie, a former executive editor of The Washington Post who now teaches at Arizona State University, said the war on leaks and other efforts to control information was “the most aggressive I’ve seen since the Nixon administration, when I was one of the editors involved in The Washington Post’s investigation of Watergate.”

 

Somehow the whole thing is quite ridiculous here ...

Point # 01
Who makes a Spicer part of his team, already shows an insane intelligence! Well ... thanks to him, we know that there are truths and alternative truths in life.

Point # 02
If you have Bennon in your staff, the right-wing propaganda platform Breitbart has gotten into the house. Really bad decision ... even if here with certain low minded trolls will assert that Breitbart only spreads the absolute truth.

Freedom of press and freedom of speech are fundamental rights in the USA. Yes, these rights are often abused, because even the biggest scum uses these freedoms to spread its mental weakness ... but a president begins to exclude misleading parts of the media world is already very questionable!

 

So Obama did or did not what you write, does this give reason that Trump does the same at least?

 

trying to minimize trumps sleaziness just makes you look like a putin troll.

 

Do you understand English Mandelus? Read the report. Obama is a scum you referred to in your previous post. Obama prosecuted more journalists than all other U.S presidents together. Quite an achievement. Trump hasn't done anything so far. So to accuse him in advance is totally dishonest. No one wants journalists prosecuted for doing their job.

 

another dishonest attempt to defend trump

 

So far as this article is true ... because I can very good remember when the same source was attacked by the Obama haters due to other articles to be fake news...
Not to say what Trump told about New York Times and what they are. So yesterday fakes news and suddenly most honorable source if showing things which are liked to read?

 

And Trump isn't one of the 'super rich elites and international corporations'? I guarantee that if CNN began lavishing praise on Trump he would love it. That's how shallow the idiot is. If he had even the slightest shred of dignity he would ignore the press attacking him and rise above it all. By lashing out like an insecure spoiled brat he just adds fuel to their fire.

 

Evidently you forgot when Obama announced that Fox News was no more than an arm of the Republicans and declared them not welcome at his press briefings.

 

It appears that you really have some problems with comprehension Mandelus. I clearly told you to pay attention to the report. You're like a kindergarten student, everything needs to be 'served' for you.

CPJ Committee to Protect Journalists

The Obama Administration and the Press

https://cpj.org/reports/2013/10/obama-and-the-press-us-leaks-surveillance-post-911.php

“This is the most closed, control freak administration I’ve ever covered,” said David E. Sanger, veteran chief Washington correspondent of The New York Times.

...But his administration’s actions have too often contradicted Obama’s stated intentions. “Instead,” New York Times public editor Margaret Sullivan wrote earlier this year, “it’s turning out to be the administration of unprecedented secrecy and unprecedented attacks on a free press.”

“President Obama had said that default should be disclosure,” Times reporter Shane told me. “The culture they’ve created is not one that favors disclosure.”

...“I think we have a real problem,” said New York Times national security reporter Scott Shane. “Most people are deterred by those leaks prosecutions. They’re scared to death. There’s a gray zone between classified and unclassified information, and most sources were in that gray zone. Sources are now afraid to enter that gray zone. It’s having a deterrent effect. If we consider aggressive press coverage of government activities being at the core of American democracy, this tips the balance heavily in favor of the government.”

In conclusion, former president Obama just perfectly fits your description of the scum you mentioned in your own post.

 

There is a great difference between a free press, and a lying press that is totally in the tank for the democrats.

The left wing press us why only a low percentage of people trust the press any more. All of their lies are like the little boy that yelled wolf too many times!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The press is dishonest, so it should be attacked.

The left is laying siege on the first amendment directly with incidents like milo. But you don't care about that. Hypocrit.