Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

Ever hear of the Big Burn in South Dakota, or was it North Dakota don't remember exactly but it was at the turn of the century long before anyone was crying chicken little climate change. Fires burn like hell, that is what they do.

 

Short grow seasons still produce growth. Plant life that evolves in dry climates manages to survive dry hot seasons and then grows once again when conditions support it. With fire season taking up more and more of the year there is less time to perform controlled burns. Over a long enough period of time you get an abundance of fuel. Is this a difficult concept?

 

No it is progressives trying to normalize destructive behavior because they hate traditional America.

We typically aren't locking people up because of their addictions, we lock them up when they commit crimes to support those addictions.

Yes they should pay for their appeals.

 

Only thing I can find that might be related happened in Idaho in 1910. That what you’re talking about?

 

So you’re saying we don’t lock people up for possession?

 

not very often and not for very long.. LOTS of people dealing plead down to possession and that's "technically" what they go to jail for and that's the light sentence they get but that's not the reality of why they were arrested

 

Lefties can refer to themselves however they'd like. Don't care really.

 

This doesn't even make sense unless you're claiming progressives are saying opioid addiction is a good thing.

Including locking up people buying and then possessing drugs.

For possessing opioids you anti-drug warriors say they can't have. Got it.

 

Yawn yeah they should appeal the 5 minutes they spend in jail on their own dime.

 

Non sequitur.

 

Looks like there are possession laws with a wide range of sentencing.
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Possession-Controlled-Substance.htm
“Incarceration. Jail or prison time is also possible when a person is convicted of possession of a controlled substance. Jail sentences range widely depending on the crime charged, the type of drugs involved, and the state's laws, but can range from a few days or weeks to 10 years or more in prison. Probation.”

The article I found doesn’t indicate that the above information involves pleading down to possession. It makes clear there is a difference between possession vs possession with intent to distribute.
Looks like depending on the state and other factors a 10 year prison sentence is not unheard of.

 

You said you're not a lefty.

I'm saying that as a lefty, you can call yourself whatever you'd like.

I don't care.

 

No, not really. The prediction in the Southeast is dry spells followed by torrential rain. So... during the wet season ....that extends into late spring ..... is usually followed by a dry summer. This gives time for the pine needles and the forest floor to dry out as well as seasonal grasses. The result is a tinderbox.

 

Hmm, science isn't always right so ''so-called experts'' don't know what they are talking about.
I expect you take your car to the flower shop when it breaks down and visit the local homeless shelter for medical treatment.
Might as well since experts have no comprehension.

 

I'm sure that it didn't occur to you that asserting the prediction and actually demonstrating the magic fuel production mix are different things,... but who cares? right? You read the report, and magic fuel was created in drier conditions that fueled the fires they predicted. Magic. Got it.

 

How many times have scientists, supposedly experts in their field, ultimately been proven to be wrong in both their presentation and their knowledge?

 

Again, an assertion of fact not in evidence here. Show the study results in AU that quantified the additional fuel everyone is now concerned is burning. Once you do that, you'll have to admit that there were several seasons where either normal or wetter than normal seasons produced it. It, as the current crop including you are asserting, the hotter drier environment is the outcome of your predictive models, where is the evidence that these hotter, drier climes produced any of this fuel that is now burning? As to is this difficult, you're certainly making it seem as though it is for you.

 

As we continue to study and learn, previous understandings can be proven inaccurate. Science is not stagnant.

 

hmm.. so nature created the fuel, because it was wet at some point in the year, and then it was dry, and then what? Arson? Those seem to be the facts so far. Why not simply realize that and move on? The unfortunate truth is that if what the models were claiming happened, had actually happened, and the AU clime was drier and hotter, the potential fuel would diminish, and the fuel for future fires would also diminish. That is simply science. Sorry it interferes with your fantasy.

 

Get a clue.

https://www.drugwarfacts.org/node/234#overlay=table/annual-drug-arrests​

1,394,515 Americans were arrested for possessing drugs in 2017.

You're all heart.

 

wow a million people got arrested... WOW! Amazing, absolutely incredibly..
Umm what's your point we aren't talking about arrests we are talking about time in prison..

 

Obviously, you don't care about the truth if you call me a leftwinger.

 

I’d honestly like to thank you for challenging me on this topic. It encourages me to do some research. Here’s what I found.

“SN: Meanwhile, one of the worst droughts on record is also occurring in southeastern Australia.

Cai: Yes, we are in a dry season that is already suffering from the impacts of two previous dry seasons. We have this kind of three-year drought regularly in Australia. It’s a very dry continent anyway, particularly in the south. It’s one of the driest regions in the world.

But you have a cumulative effect now, because the soil moisture is very low, and then this dipole comes about, and we also accumulate a lot of [wildfire] fuel.

SN: Is there a link between the positive-phase dipole and wildfires in eastern Australia?

Cai: There’s a very good correlation: All the major bushfires in southeastern Australia are preceded by [a positive] Indian Ocean dipole. For example, in 2009, [such a dipole preceded] a bushfire called Black Saturday that killed 173 people in Melbourne in just a few hours, and destroyed more than 2,000 houses.

There was also a [positive] dipole before the 1997 bushfire in Indonesia, which lasted many months and created haze affecting tens of millions of people and really hit the economy there. The 2019 dipole is second [in strength] only to 1997 in the historical record going back to 1870.”

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/how-climate-change-may-make-australia-wildfires-more-common

 

Ok, so quick summation, how many of the fires that have killed people in AU were not arson? And what then is the expected normal fire occurrence rate result given that these are normally occurring cycles? Let us start down the scientific path here..

 

So, you need more...

"The US Dept. of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that at yearend 2016, 1,288,466 people were serving sentences in state prisons in the US, of whom 190,100 (14.75% of the total) had as their most serious offence a drug charge: 45,300 for drug possession (3.51% of the total), and 144,800 for "other" drug offenses, including manufacturing and sale (11.24% of the total)."​

https://www.drugwarfacts.org/chapter/drug_prison

How many lives do you have to wreck before you end the insane "war on drugs?"