Auto Dealers Call on Biden to Hit Brakes on Unrealistic, Unachievable Electric Vehicles Mandate

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Critical thinking people with common sense
     
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    Why do you think there were electric vehicles there?
    Of course I think electric cars have batteries. My point is your argument is that 1) an electric car started the fire (it didn't) 2) There were electric cars there that prolonged the fire (no evidence in any story that I read about it)
    See above
     
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    Reality is based on proof and facts of which you have given none.
     
  4. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    No one with common sense sees the government forcing the people to transition to EV's is a necessity and it damn sure isn't a good idea. Not a good idea for the people, anyway.
     
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    because there are electric cars in the world and it was a parking lot what makes you think there weren't any why would this be the one place where there wouldn't be any electric cars?
    then why did you say they didn't?
    I never said electric car started the fire I said what started the fire didn't matter.

    You really need to work on your reading comprehension

    Yes there were electric cars there. And when a battery in an electric car starts burning because it has its own oxygen it's like a road flare you can drop it under water and it won't stop burning.
    What you've shown above is that you're incompetent.

    The second floor of the Newton car park had electric cars on it this is a fact electric car batteries when they burn they're impossible to put out because they have their own oxygen supply so what I see above is you being wrong because you don't understand reality or you're in denial of it.
     
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    I'm not here to prove to you that reality exists.

    If you want to be in denial that's your business I'm not your therapist.
     
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    If it isn't already an ecological disaster now which that's debatable the more people adopt electric cars the closer will get to and absolutely ecological disaster.

    The problem is I just don't think that there's enough supply of material to make enough electric cars to replace more sensible vehicles.
     
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    No pipelines
    No drilling in Alaska
    No drilling in the Gulf of Mexico
    No fracking

     
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    Love how these people don't know anything and demand you spoon feed them what they have been ignoring.

    I refuse to do it. They can remain in the dark for all I care.

    Hats off to you for explaining
     
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    There isn't and the electrical infrastructure can't support that many EV's and that's part of the plan. When there are only a limited amount of vehicles available for the people to buy, then the government gets to say who can own one and who gets to have enough electricity to charge it.

    They aren't pushing EV's because they're better. They're pushing them because the government can control them and therefore control the people.
     
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    It's like the left doesn't even know the policies of the guy they voted for - they just hated the other guy so much the left voted for their own destruction.
     
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    If you want the US to energy independent it's a necessity because there is a finite amount of fossil fuel available and unless we transition to green energy from fossil fuel to make it last longer we never will be independent.
    That's common sense.
     
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    "He never said that!"

    :roll:
     
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    You think the auto experts prognostications are? TWO YEARS and they haven't manage to install one SIMPLE charging station. If they were a private company they'd be out of business. And the private ones are already having to be replaced with reports of 25% at any given time not operating even with THEIR subsidies.
     
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    Let's hope Biden doesn't announce that the rest of us, the taxpayers are going to have to pay for it.
     
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    Forget the infrastructure there's a bigger problem. First they are a luxury item during the crappy econo s*** boxes are extortionately high.

    Nobody knows what they use to market is going to look like or if there will even be one. If I was to buy one used it better be dirt cheap because it is a fast depreciating asset. And the chances are that I'm going to lose on it and I'm going to be the one that has to take it to the dump they won't let them be in junk yards.

    Let's imagine we can produce six times as much electricity as we do today without ripping the country apart it's still a problem. And all of this for a less convenient vehicle.

    I don't think the government is competent enough for this to be some deeper motive. There is no way that it wouldn't be leaked. I think they buy into the electric car nonsense they're eating the feces so to speak. It's green because it doesn't use gasoline what do you think ing you around the power plants on it's like these people don't understand the basics of thermodynamics.

    Once you understand the first rule that energy can neither be created nor destroyed it's only ever transferred you'll realize at best moving from gasoline and diesel cars to electric cars is a lateral move. But the reality is it's much likely a lot worse for the environment.

    It's just that it gives people the warm and fuzzies because the tailpipe isn't connected to their car it's not the power plant.
     
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    Can you show me the letter 4000 of them sent to the White House about it then? Why don't you deal with what THEY just said is their big concern instead of making up one for them?
     
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    Oh no, don't try and sell that nonsense. YOU said that the fire was devastating because of electric vehicles being the cause and why it burnt so long. There is no evidence to back that. Clearly you're making things up to try to prove a point.
    I didn't.
    My reading comprehension is just fine. You should stop changing your story.
    Probably, but them being there is not mentioned in any story that they were a problem related to the fire. You made that up,
    The reality is you can't prove anything you say.
     
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    You should be able to prove that what you say is true. You won't because you can't.
    You're circular argument is simply lying and boring
     
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    What about the finite amount of materials for the batteries in EV's? What about the finite amount of coal to produce the electricity for them? What about the finite about of raw materials for solar panels?
     
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    Let the market make that decision and on what to transition and how. It didn't take the government to go from horses to automobiles.
     
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    Just as many as there were before
    No companies want to drill in Alaska. It's too expensive.
    They can if they want
    Not because of any Biden policies
     
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    You want energy independence, but the rare earth minerals required to make the EV batteries will come from China...lol
     
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    They know, the reality is that they voted for it that's what they want. The attempt to deny it is about gaslighting.

    They really get off on telling you that you're a conspiracy theorist and if I'm a conspiracy theorist for believing what Joe Biden says but it's not really that much of an insult is it?
     
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    The production mandates go to the manufacturers not the dealers.
     

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