You can watch a documentary called: Azorian: The Raising of the K-129 on Netflix. What is so interesting about this movie, and how does this have to go along with conspiracies? Well, as you watch this documentary, you soon realize the CIA has full control of anything it wants, from the actions of the President on down, and billion dollar budgets for just one black op project is nothing to them. This plan to steal secrets from the Russians by salvaging a downed sub in 1974 took 6 years of planning and building ships, capable of lifting millions of pounds from 4 miles deep on the ocean floor. We even pulled up Russian bodies, that we hid from them. 30 years after the fact, and who knows how many lies are still being told, we have admitted some of the actions in this video. I suggest all watch this video on Netflix, and see just exactly what lengths the USA government will go to dig up secrets and lie to everyone about it. Watch this video, and think about what it is you have seen, that could relate to other historical events like TWA800, 9/11, JFK, and even, yes even the moon walks. You see, once we establish a woman is a whore, we need only establish a place and a time for her services.
I'm confused. What about the CIA trying to get a look at a Russian submarine is surprising or objectionable to you?
Watch the video, and then comment on it. How do we talk about the seasoning of a meal, you have not eaten? This was a (in todays dollars) a billion dollar black op project no one outside the CIA knew about, that spanned 6 plus years. The cost of one ship building contract alone was $350 billion dollars in the 1960s. How many billion dollar black op projects do we have going on right now, that you are also not concerned about? JFK was correct about agencies like this, they need rained in. The speach about the Indistrial Millitary Complex by Ike, we should listen to again. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdhAB9nDeB0&feature=related"]The President Who Told The TRUTH - YouTube[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY"]Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex. - YouTube[/ame]
I am completely familiar with the story. What again are your objections? Expensive secret operations are both expensive and secret. This is a suprise to you... why? Many. Perhaps they do. I still don't know what your issues are with the raising of this submarine.
I think when I go visit my neighbors, I use a door they are familiar with, and not spend a billion dollars sneaking in a back door. Obtaining this sub helped us how? I think a foreign policy run by Ron Paul, is better than a foreign policy run by LBJ. Both men ate Texans, but vastly different in policy. Lets say you know your next door neighbor is a convicted rapist, out on parole. Do you let him babysit your baby sister? The inmates are in control of the asylum, and no one knows for sure just how bad it really is. Admitting government was out of control 30 years ago, is a pretty good indication that are still running the rodeo. If you think that program was good policy, that is here we disagree.
How about when you visit people who are trying to kill you? It still is not disclosed what was recovered. The likelihood however is that we got torpedoes with nuclear warheads, operations manuals, codebooks and coding machines. No. On the other hand, if my next door neighbor proves to be very good at helping to protect my neighborhood, I might. I'm still waiting for some rationale from you as to how this shows a government out of control. Apparently, yes. That would be one of the places we disagree.
My father in law a very long time ago, made a A M crystal radio set from a radio shack kit. He put it (hid it) somewhere in the kitchen, and would then set about picking a fight with members of the family. After the fight got raging, he would leave the house and go sit in his car, listening to the radio he said. They thought he was listening to music, when in fact, he was listening to them. About the time the house got calm again, in he would come in to stir them all up again. This went on for years. His children thought he was a God because he knew so much about them. Is it OK for Fathers to do this to their children, to learn secrets about them, and find out about what people said about him when he left the room? No sane person would think so. No sane person, likewise thinks all the billions of dollars going into Cold War BS is doing anyone any good, except for feeding the loons at the top of the Government food chain. The real terror, is the man tricking us into believing there is terror, and making terror by exploding bombs on foreign soil, to kill the alleged hostels, who were not hostel at all, before we shot them first. Our foreign policy is making enemies of the whole world, and that is exactly what the Military Industrial Complex wants. No terror, no orders for arms.
I'm not asking you to understand anything for me. I've got that completely covered. Let me put it out there: I believe it would have been criminally negligent for the CIA to have not tried to get hold of that submarine.
Your father-in-law was a sadistic bastard. Unless you are also going to tell us he headed the CIA, though, that little anecdote is as pointless as it is fascinating. I agree completely. What does that have to do with project Azorian?
Then it would have been a negligent for Nixon not to have broken into Watergate? You see, one day you eat at Burger King, and the next day you eat at McDonalds, then the next day you learn the same franchise owns both restaurants, and the same food supplier supplies both establishments. On a world stage, not only does the right hand know what the left hand is doing, both hands are attached to the same person. I had a Hawaiian college student in my practice last week, and the subject of the USA getting into WWII. I tried to approach the assertion cautiously that prior knowledge existed about the attack on Pearl. She said, I know, we learned that in eighth grade. Now I bet you the mainland's kids are not taught this in eighth grade.
What a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing crock. If they are teaching revisionist history like that, it's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sick. Everyone knew war was coming at some point, but no one had any clue how or when it would pop off, and there were only vague hints to FDR. To say, that the USA INTENTIONALLY LET THE ATTACK OCCUR is a disgusting conspiracy theory. American Government is "good" do you not (*)(*)(*)(*)ing understand? Just becuase we get a bad pol once in awhile does not mean that the entire US government has any interest in seeing Americans die! To assume such means you are not an American, but a piece of (*)(*)(*)(*)! This subject was put to bed long long ago and people who keep bringing it up are just haters of authority, anarchists, or simple conspiracy theory nutjobs.
About 2/3's the way through the video, the makers reveal the USA lost most of the sub, as it fell back down to the bottom. Really? Really? So, we are to believe, yes they tried to covertly get another nations property, and the bodies of sailors of another nation (which were never returned to the families) , but somehow failed, So because they failed (wink, wink) it is OK to 30 years tell the story. First off, these people, in the CIA black op project sit on one lie after another, setting all this up, and then at the end, it all goes to poop, and o well, we did get a look at some stuff. Yeah, right. The kid has his hands in the cookie jar, and the child admits 30 years later he did have his hand in the jar, but for whatever reason, he just stroked the cookies, and never ate a whole one. Maybe he did nibble the edge of a cookie, that fell off a main cookie, but he never really had a whole cookie. Yeah, right. Remember the American Indians? Those were the folks, that were given blankets to sleep on with small pox laced inside. If I drive up to a bank, and make a deposit, and they loose it, one week, and then again the next week, when do I gather enough brains to think for myself, that maybe, just maybe, I am not dealing with bankers that tell the truth. Coin on the other side, if every week, I make a deposit, and I always short the teller five bucks, just to check to see if the teller is paying attention, how many times do I do this trick before the teller no longer trusts me? I look at JFK, TWA-800, Oklahoma City, 9/11, Bin Laden, and on and on and on, and then I run across evidence like this, where we fully admit lies were told to the American people, and the world community, even to steal, and never properly release bodies of sailors lost at sea, and the pieces of the puzzle starts to make more impact. It would be easier to wire building seven to take a powder at 5:20 in the afternoon of 9/11 than it would be to bring up one million pounds from four miles down, while another navy's ships are watching your every move. If they can take six years and billions of dollars to pull that off, what else are they planning and scheming to pull off? If a mans left hand is dishonest, is not his right hand also?
Study your history, not just believe what you want to believe. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=1999_record&page=S5892&position=all Then also study Gulf Of Tokin http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/
Two points, questioning BS stories put out by factions in Government, is what a good citizen of this country does. Secondly, name calling on this forum board, is against the rules, and if you continue, you will be banned, as others before you. Stick to topics, and leave personal name calling out of this.
Probably not. It would be both irresponsible and stupid to be explicit on what was recovered and what was not.
Debate skills of preschoolers. If you have nothing to add, just throw mud on the people that are talking point by point on topic. Name Calling. How childish. Go away!
