Baghdadi Mossad Trained

It makes sense since all he has been doing is killing his fellow Muslims. Which of course works out perfectly for Israel.

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=381153

 

WASHINGTON: The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

Snowden said intelligence services of three countries created a terrorist organisation that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called "the hornet's nest".

NSA documents refer to recent implementation of the hornet's nest to protect the Zionist entity by creating religious and Islamic slogans.

According to documents released by Snowden, "The only solution for the protection of the Jewish state "is to create an enemy near its borders".

Leaks revealed that ISIS leader and cleric Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi took intensive military training for a whole year in the hands of Mossad, besides courses in theology and the art of speech.[\QUOTE]

It makes sense since all he has been doing is killing his fellow Muslims. Which of course works out perfectly for Israel.

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=381153[/QUOTE]

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. Do you have any supporting evidence? At all?

 

I see that Russian intelligence has been working on Mr. Snowden ...

Going to the core of the matter, there is only a shadow period in the life of the "Caliph", between 2005 and 2009, when according to some medias he had been detained at Camp Bucca. Officially US authority say he had arrested and detained for 10 months in 2004 and then released. In those years something happened, we don't know.

Before of that his career is quite clear: he was born at Samarra, North Iraq, 1971. He grew up as a middle class student [graduated at Islamic UNI at Baghdad]. There is who suggests he was a preacher in the province of Diyala [Iraq] before of the US attack.

There is a different version: from Afghanistan, medias sustain that he was there in late 90's with the Talibans and with Al-Zarqawi. And he would have "served" also in the "Ishaq" militia.

 

ROFLMAO ..............Look a squirrel

 

Let's look at the information we have. The U.S. and Israel were training so called moderates in Jordan to fight Assad's army. Men were also being trained in Turkey and we know the ISIL fighters were going back and forth through Turkey to fight the Syrian Kurds. All these trainees, most of which came from Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Chechnya, ended up as part of Al Nusra which was a branch of Al Queda.

These Al Nusra terrorists were called 'moderates' by Kerry and Congress armed them to fight Assad and the Syrian people. There are even pictures of them with McCain after they massacred a Christian town. The terrorist who McCain is addressing on the left is Baghdadi. Click on it to enlarge it:

There is also a geo political strategy in advancing a Sunni caliphate since it would stand in opposition to the Shia Iranian state and its supporters. Also why is it that the Kurds who are supported by the U.S. and Israel were able to grab the oil rich city of Kirkuk so quickly, and also why did the Iraqi's drop their arms and run? Were they bribed to do so? That's a question many were asking. Was Kirkuk given to the Kurds as part of a geo political strategy?

Anyway we have to look at what Snowden said, which might or might not be true, from this context.

 

You have bad intel, Jeannette.. Saudis who go to Syria to fight Assad get prison time in Arabia..

 

This would be more effective if written in Arabic,
I guess Snowden wants to redeem himself.

 

If its true that Baghdadi was trained by Mossad, that means Israel wants to destabilize Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.

BTW.. Syria's oil production is pathetically small.. and the Kurdish areas of Iraq only produce 10% of Iraqi oil.

 

Yup, but before ISIS I could not see stability within IRAQ and SYRIA, I think the turmoil of the two countries was a masterpiece of Assad's and Hussein's and for Lebanon. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/15/syria-lebanon-proxy-war

If the account is true then it will create quite a stir within the ranks of ISIS.

 

LOLOL.. No you didn't SEE stability in Iraq or Syria before ISIS... There wasn't any.

 

Yup, that means no need to destabilize any of the countries right.

 

You don't seem to know the difference between low level conflict and out and out war on Christians, Shia, Sunni and Yazidi.

 

Saddam Hussein the Omnipotent kept it in check i guess.

 

Primarily the responsibility for the whole mess lies with the Washington DC policy makers. They consciously made an alliance with the Sunni extremists in order to reshape the Middle East. The blood of innocent people is on their hands.


America's Allies Are Funding ISIS

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/america-s-allies-are-funding-isis.html

 

Most Muslims are Sunni and most are not extremists.. You should rethink your claim.

 

Does the U.S. want stability in the Middle East, or any region for that matter if the leader is not a pawn of U.S. interests? The answer is no. Syria would have been stable if Washington had supported Assad since he is the one the Syrian people want, but since it wasn't in our interest we preferred chaos. Ukraine would have had peace if the U.S. had supported Yanuovich instead of trying to topple him for a regime which represents at most twenty five percent of the people. Libya would have had peace if we had supported Ghadaffi, and I could go on and on.

As for Snowdon, there are two scenarios here, one that it the truth and one that it is not the truth and someone is lying. The U.S. and Israel might have trained ISIL, never believing the people they thought were moderates would become extremists. But it is unconscionable that after the U.S. knew they were extremists, and had been massacring Christians, Shias and Alawites that Kerry referred to them as moderates and the congress voted to give them arms. McCain of course gave them his stamp of approval by paying them a visit. Here's a video where he's being blasted as a traitor for his lies about the chemical attack in Syria:

[video=youtube;H8SycdU3QDk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8SycdU3QDk[/video]

 

I wonder if Antisemitism is a cause of paranoid delusions, or is it the other way around.

 

If it's true that Baghdadi was trained by Mossad I begin to doubt about the capabilities of Mossad [or I begin to wonder if at Mossad they have hired Mickey Mouse to train Baghdadi ... since they have done a job well under Mossad standards ...].

 

Why in the world would the US "support" Assad or Ghaddafi against the people of Syria or Libya???

 

Is there something that Arabs are able to do by themselves?
If what you suggest is true [and I don't think so] it means that Israel has reached the total control of the region and that Arab today are even more inferior than in the past.

 

Being insulting doesn't take into account any of the facts of history.

 

To be fair and balanced, here is a different take:

ISIS Leader was NOT Trained By the CIA or Mossad, and Snowden Didn't Say It
Sunny Hundal
August 14, 2014

There are three common rules when people discuss politics:
1) they are willing to believe anything on the internet if it confirms their prejudices
2) they don’t want to accept people of their tribe do awful things
3) they find a way to blame America or the UK for most of the world’s problems

A recent example: the claim that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi – the self proclaimed leader of Islamic State in Syria and Iraq – was funded or trained by the CIA or Israel’s Mossad, and that this was apparently revealed by Edward Snowden.

Stories claiming this hoax have gone viral all over the web (example 1, example 2, example 3). This is simply not true. In fact I asked the reporter Glenn Greenwald, who has had more contact with Snowden than most people – this question directly. He said that Snowden never mentioned it or alluded to it.

Furthermore, Edward Snowden’s lawyer called this claim a hoax too.

So where did ISIS money and the guns come from?
I explain this briefly in my New Statesman article:

“After initially funding its efforts with extortion, smuggling and private donations, it literally struck gold in June when it made off with $400m in cash and gold from the central bank in Mosul.

“Since then it has also captured oil fields and earns up to £3m a day by selling the resource on the black market.

“The group also has a modernised arsenal from the weapons and vehicles it has captured from the Iraqi army. Even the well-trained and feared Kurdish forces are being pushed back in places.”

But America is still to blame, right?
In some ways, yes. The New York Times recently reported:

“The Pentagon says that Mr. Baghdadi, after being arrested in Falluja in early 2004, was released that December with a large group of other prisoners deemed low level. But Hisham al-Hashimi, an Iraqi scholar who has researched Mr. Baghdadi’s life, sometimes on behalf of Iraqi intelligence, said that Mr. Baghdadi had spent five years in an American detention facility where, like many ISIS fighters now on the battlefield, he became more radicalized.”

From there he joined al-Qaeda, and later split off into his own group which later became ISIS and Islamic State.

But what about all the pictures?
If you see any pictures, supposedly of al-Baghdadi meeting someone (like John McCain!), they’re also fake. McCain met some Syrian opposition leaders but he didn’t meet Baghdadi. These pics never reveal their source, time, date or location. Unless a pic does that, so it can be verified, its a fake.

So where did ISIS come from?
ISIS were initially an al-Qaeda offshoot:

“The Islamic State is the current incarnation of al-Qaeda in Iraq(AQI), which was created when Abu Mus’ab al-Zarqawi swore allegiance to Osama bin Laden in October 2004. The Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) was declared in October 2006, four months after a U.S. airstrike killed Zarqawi. This was not just a naming convention: according to its organizers, AQI ceased to exist at that point, as the ISI was intended to be a governing institution independent from al-Qaeda and a practical step toward ultimately declaring a Caliphate.”

But ISIS split from Al-Qaeda and went its on way to establish a Caliphate. Its only over the last year they have made serious inroads towards their aims and have therefore become much more prominent.

Now, stop spreading conspiracy theories please.

Update: A longer debunking of this hoax is here.

 

I also read where Baghdadi is really named Simon Elliot(Elliot Shimon) and was born to 2 Jewish parents. Conspiracy theories...

 

LOLOL.. The claim that he was Mossad trained was questionable at best..........

 

Don't use rhetoric with a Latin ...

Saying to an other not being insulting doesn't help the discussion, in fact you have said nothing ...