Ban Children from many Businesses

One easy thing to do that will help prevent the spread of the virus, is to ban children from places of business. This struck me last night as one person at the grocery store allowed their child to run wildly through the store yelling, at will. At one point the kid actually started running after me trying to grab me. He was just a little guy so by increasing my pace he couldn't catch me. But it was pissing me off.

If he was a little carrier, he likely exposed everyone in the store.

Not only does this apply generally but certainly now amidst this pandemic, I don't want to have to deal with other people's uncontrolled kids when I go to get food or other supplies. And there is no reason why I should have to. There is no reason why children need to be allowed in places like grocery stores, pharmacies, or other major shopping outlets not intended for children.

 

In the re-opening, some of the rules from our 'lockdowns' will still make sense. Have one person in a household do the grocery shopping - no need for it to be a family affair. I understand that will pose challenges for single parents and exceptions will have to be made. But I think carrying some of the sensible lessons we've learned going forward is a good idea.

 

Even in normal years we see 30,000 to 60,000 deaths a year from influenza and other seasonal illnesses. In terms of cost, just the flu accounts for 10 billion a year

...estimated that the annual burden of influenza included 31.4 million outpatient visits, 334,185 hospitalizations, and direct medical costs of $10.4 billion.Jul 12, 2017
US healthcare costs attributable to type A and type B influenza
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pmc › articles

The common cold costs Americans about $40 Billion each year.
"Cost of the Common Cold: $40 Billion
...A cold is the most commonly occurring illness in humans, so it was no surprise that there are approximately 500 million colds each year in the U.S.," says Fendrick. "What was a surprise is how often the public uses the health care system to treat a cold."

Those surveyed reported their doctors' bills, over-the-counter medication costs, and costs of prescription drugs. They also reported days when work and school were missed, a cost that is generally overlooked, says Fendrick...[/quote]
https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20030224/cost-of-common-cold-40-billion#1

Children are a primary source of contamination and disease spread each year. Not only are they often in physical contact with many other children and surfaces touched by other children, they are too young to be expected to properly manage personal hygiene of problems like runny noses and coughs, as responsible adults do or at least should. They run and yell and touch many surfaces around them, which is exactly what you would want to do if you intend to spread disease.

Not allowing children to run amok in all public places is a minor inconvenience. The health care costs and loss of life associated with that luxury cant be justified. On top of that, it is a simple fact that many parents simply don't control their kids. The price for that is they won't be allowed in stores. Problem solved.

 

More children die of the flu each year than this virus

 

Some mothers have no choice but to drag the little, nose picking, petri dishes along. Those who can, make other arrangements should, not buy force of law though.

 

Oh look.

Another thread where leftists get all dreamy eyed and telling other people how to live their lives, under threat of punishment.

Piss off.

 

Sounds like the Reich attitude.

 

I was going to wait to do the ultimate "Right Wing Authoritarian Personality" debunk and projection "calling-out" thread until the COVID1984 Moral Panic of 2020 was done to make it even more of a slam dunk. OP and so many others have made it crystal exactly who the real authoritarians are if it wasn't painfully obvious already. Was kind of hoping that nut from the past would pop up using "Right Wing Authoritarian" in every sentence, but haven't seen them lately.

 

Get grip and grow a pair. Don't like children in a store then shop somewhere else. If enough of you do that then stores will cater to you and implement those type of rules. Sounds to me that possibly you do not like ethnic families. Because where I live the Latino and Kenyan families tend to shop as a family unit. I never see white trash family units shopping together. How dare you be so inconsiderate of our ethnic population.

 

So much whining LOL!

If you can't do whatever you want you are going to get your guns. I know. I've been around spoiled little children. In fact that is partly what this is about. I wonder how many righties were those kids annoying the hell out of everyone else not that long ago. People tend to defend the behavior they know.

BTW, I was a republican half of my adult life and independent the other half. So lose the left wing crappola for a change. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

There is nothing in the Constitution saying that children have uncontrolled access to all public places. In fact the precedent is already well established that children are not allowed in all public places.

 

You should walk up to the next father with kids you see and give him your opinion.

 

Sure. Babysitters grow on trees! Some adults are tolerant of children knowing that once they were children and the adults around were tolerate of them.

 

Although I don't think we can (or should) legislate it, I don't like poorly behaved children running wild either, whether in a store or a restaurant, nor do I like the fact that they seem to touch everything and they're little petri dishes.

But this is a failure of parenting, not a failure of legislation.

 

To leftists, moar government is the solution to everything they interpret as a problem.

And as we all know, they interpret pretty much everything as a problem.

 

we think laws are needed to keep corps from doing bad things that are profitable, we do not think we need laws to force the right to keep their children in check in grocery stores

just because something is legal does not mean it's a good thing and should be done like many on the right think

 

Actually the authoritarian left believes exactly that. There's a thread on it started by the OP, in fact.

Leftists believe the government decides what is best for people. Conservatives believe the people decide what's best for people.

There is no better example of the authoritarian, government-worshipping penchant of leftists than the high death rate/high lockdown states vs. the low death rate states that are moving away from lockdown.

I'd like to encourage leftists to left as hard as they can. It's very revealing to people who normally don't pay attention to leftist megalomania.

 

nope, that is the right, the right wants laws to tell people what to beleive, ect...

 

Right.

Let's just ignore the left's obvious examples of censorship, how they are handling the pandemic, and the laws Democrats are constantly trying to pass, and pretend that's true.

 

seems Trump that wants to sensor criticism, not the left

 

Who has he censored.

 

Speaking out against slander and libel and misleading spin-doctored "news" isn't censorship, but many left leaning posters here can't grasp the difference.

 

Trump wanted to create new slander laws to sue people that criticized the President

 

Says the adherents of "hate speech" laws, some of whom actually have passed such laws.

 

you mean like threats of violence to groups of people?

 

Where are you moving the goalposts now? Go ahead and tell us all about it.