Barack Obama Has "Privately Expressed Grave Concerns" About Joe Biden's 2020 White House Run

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  1. 21Bronco

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    Nah. A lawyer sues a small business, it can still cost a crapload to get the suit tossed.

    Well, let's re-open the economy and put people back to work as soon as possible. State unemployment is the primary source for unemployment benefits.

    No doubt. Which is why Democrats tacked a whopping $2 trillion of unrelated spending onto their version.
     
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    Why should schools have to be physically open if online learning is a viable and necessary action due to local cases?
    Should kids that are in these areas just not go to school?
     
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    Why would I ask them? We can wait, if they don't run them the only answer would be it might lead to Biden having to answer questions, and they can't have that..
     
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    I would recommend they update their insurance policy then.
    We have a CGL policy, worker’s compensation, and D&O policy for this very reason.

    Most of the economy is reopened, at least in my state. We are seeing increases in cases and death but those are being ignored & the unemployment rate is still astronomically high. I guess if we let them starve to death we no longer have to concern ourselves so “win/win”?

    The bulk of that was additions to the UI benefit and it’s extensions. They had many things wrong in their bill and added too much, just as Republicans left many things out of theirs and had a few wrongs as well.

    Democrats are at fault for pushing too many pet projects
    Republicans are at fault for waiting till the last minute

    They both suck
     
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    oh you don’t want Biden and Harris to win? Odd your post don’t seem to support that.

    with that said glad we established doing what is right isn’t always what’s popular...certainly one of the many reasons the impeachment hoax won’t be an issue this year
     
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    it was 400 i believe

    violations of what? the libility protection was so that businesses wouldn’t get sued if someone happens to get the chinese virus if they went there at some point.

    the big issue was the massive no accountability state bailouts for things unrelated to rona...as well as the massive universal mail in voting, and bailouts to executives at defense contractors as well as all the other non rona stuff the dems put in
     
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    Funny, the states with the most lockdowns are having the worst problem with the virus.

    There's about 5 people in Congress I'd trust to run the local trash service. The rest are scumbags. On that we agree.
    Here's a few of the pork/unrelated items in the House bill.

    1) Repealing part of Trump's tax cuts dealing with deducting state and local taxes.
    2) Releasing prisoners, eliminating bail for jailed suspects.
    3) Prohibit the removal of inspector generals.
    4) $10,000 in student loan debt forgiveness to about 16 million borrowers, lol.
    5) $50 million for "environmental justice" grants, lol.
    6) Vote by mail
    7) LGBT training, lol
    8) Another "hate crime" law
    9) $300 million for foreign "refugees"
    10) $800 million for the Endowment for the Humanities and Arts
    11) $100 million for NASA
    12) $25 million in "cleaning supplies" for the US Capitol Building
    13) $25 million for House of Reps salary
    14) Visa extensions for all foreign workers
    15) Same-day voter registration
    16) Amnesty for 800,000 DACA illegal aliens
    17) More Obamaphone funding
    18) $1.2 billion in grants for more "sustainable aviation fuels"
    19) $15 minimum wage requirement for any company accepting assistance
    20) $35 million for the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts


    And that's a partial list.
     
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    It was $200.00 — they wanted the 75% match up to $500.00 but states said it would take several (5+) months to roll that out.

    There is no reason to give businesses a pass from making minimal protections to their employees. We are a small company and have temperature checks, issue masks and disinfectant, monitor compliance, and have periodic best method trainings.

    So you are against states having “no accountability” but just above that you wanted businesses to have “no accountability”. Strange

    What bailout to executives at defense contractors was in the bill? It was a large amount of text but something like that should have stuck out
     
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    FL and GA have the most lockdowns?

    The senate bill had 30B in defense funding, including new missiles — which is the approximate cost of line items 1-20 combined, with the exception of number 4.

    I fully support a clean bill. Neither party seems to be up to such a simple challenge
     
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    it wasn’t about their employees it was about customers

    yes i am against bailing out states like NY and Cali that for years have had issues to get a bailout for all that because of the chinese virus

    the bailout for them, put in by a VA Dem Congressman
     
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    I am voting third party. How are you getting I want Biden and Harris to win? Because I don’t praise trumps corruption?
     
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    But, at the end of the day, it boils down to do this:

    The Politico Report, which is the Entire basis (for this absurdly misguided narrative) is based on an Anonymous (Unnamed) Sources:

    Here is the Actual Passage from Politico (with emphasis added):

    Yet searing, anonymously sourced quotes from Obama kept appearing through the race. One Democrat who spoke to Obama recalled the former president warning, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f--k things up.”

    If Trump has gotten so desperate that he wants to give credence to unnamed sources (and this type of incredibly misguided narrative), there isn't much that can be done.

    In fact, the NY Post story (characterizing that statement by an unnamed source as expressing "grave concerns") is one of the most utterly ridiculous characterizations that I have ever seen.

    In any event, if Obama really had "grave concerns", I wouldn't expect him to be giving the speech (supporting Joe) at the Convention.

    A statement like "grave concerns" should be reserved for describing the actions of people actually willing to go on the record.

    Not "unnamed sources".

    A True Example of people *expressing grave concerns" would be members of the GOP who realize that America can not survive 4 More Years of Trump's Egregious Trainwreck.

    The "grave concerns" about Trump (from people like John Kasich and the Lincoln Project).
     
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    False

    NY and CA have been bailing out the country for decades so I have no issued bailing them out when they need help — especially since the pandemic plan was put on hold by Kushner because it was primarily impacting blue states, something I consider outright treason — but that is for another thread.
     
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    I frequently cite Politico.

    Why? So lefties can't attack the source.

    Some still try though.
     
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    And you certainly don't need to be an expert to know our numbers are fake.

    How does India with 1.3 billion people have 19 deaths per 1 million population but the US has 460 deaths per 1 million population or New York having 1700 deaths per 1 million.

    How does the US with 340 million people and 4% of the worlds population account for 27% of all global deaths? It's mathematically impossible.

    I guess we have the worse medical staff on the planet but then you have to wonder.

    How did the 60 thousand homeless people living on the streets in California, with no mask, no medical, no social distancing, sharing needles, have no recorded deaths? Shouldn't they be dying by the thousands by now?
     
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    Who told you that there are no homeless deaths due to corona?
     
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    who?

    and what corruption?
     
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    Because New York city claims to have 200 covid deaths per 100,000 people and 321 homeless deaths per 100,000 people.
    While India has 19 deaths per 1 million people.

    Since New York has around 59 thousand homeless, At New York's claimed death rate they would have obliterated their homeless population by now a few times over.

    Its all fake numbers but for some reason, nobody on the left can do math and there isn't a single news story about how the homeless population has been eradicated in any city.
     
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    Let’s round those numbers to make it easier.
    Let’s say it’s 320 homeless deaths per 100,000.
    If they have 50k homeless, that’s 160 dead. How would that eradicate the homeless population?
     
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    Because it isn't the death count, its the death rate.

    The population of just New York city is over 8 million. That would mean the death rate for homeless would be
    3200 per million people and
    25,000 per 8 million

    If you used the population of New York of over 19 million you would have
    61,000 per 19 million.

    And this is not the count of dead. This is the claimed death rate meaning they don't just reach a certain number and its over. This is the rate of fatalities ongoing. Its an impossible number.
     
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    3rd worst president of the century is likely to be re-elected despite best Democrat efforts to burn the country to the ground and install the sociopath Harris via the demented rapist Biden.
     
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    What a stupid statement which is exactly why Joe has no chance. There is no desperation. It’s just sad and pathetic that this is the best blithering drooling idiot that the Democrats can offer. You would really have to be crazy to vote for a guy who doesn’t know where he is most of the time...
     
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    It just doesn't matter.

    Trump is an existential threat to the security of the United States of America.

    I'd vote for a crack addled chimpanzee if I thought he'd a chance of beating Trump.
     
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    no it dealt with customers...for example you got to get ice cream then a week later test postive you then can’t sue the restaurant

    no they haven’t...i’ve gotten not one penny from either state
     
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    Why does the proposal say “employers” then?
    Let me guess, you are having to interpret the actual meaning like you do for trump?

    And yes, they have.
     
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