Begging For Help: NM Gov Changing Her Tune On Immigration

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I don't.


    Just your view of a better life for those in a bad country is equal to one who wants a better life by robbing banks.
    But hey, I am not a tRUMPer, what do I know.
     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bad country? You mean shithole, and that’s racist.
     
  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    So, to you, color isn't the only thing that is racist. Now a country is racist? Is Norway racist vs Finland?
    I still don't think you have a clue what race is.

    If you stop watching faux tv, you may get more informed.
     
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    TheAngryLiberal Banned

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    So! where do you draw the line and say enough asylum seekers and start turning people away and start building a wall, how many people within the borders of the United States are you as a Tax payer are willing to support. Do you leave your home unlocked, your windows open and a sign in your front yard that says this is an open house and anyone who wants to come live here is welcome and I'll feed and support everybody even if it's a 100 asylum seekers. What if the entire Worlds population of 7 Billion people decide were all asylum seekers and want to live in the United States. There has to be a number in your head where you say, Alright! that's enough people, the House if full and we can't accept anymore. Is it 10 Million more asylum seekers, 100 Million, maybe a BILLION! or 3 BILLION, just give us a number, so we can judge where your particular limit is on how many people in the United States is too much. It's nonsense to just allow everyone who claims asylum into the country if they trespass illegally or don't leave when their Visa expires and part of what makes America a great country is we have Laws and a system that takes in immigrants legally, just don't cut in line, because nobody likes a Cutter.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol just today. Keep up kansas.
     
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    There is no requirement that an asylum seeker must stop and seek it in the first country they come to. Sorry.
     
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    But you know that i have, in several threads.
     
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    It was that simple. But there was and is no crisis, nor do republicans care at all about illegal immigration. They instead wanted to give their rich donors a welfare handout.
     
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    Yeah Senate rules show how very wrong you are. Read the article I posted about all the regulations the GOPs tried to twist through to get reconciliation to happen. The Senate is an intentionally ponderous body.
     
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    No they don’t. Wall funding is a budgetary issue. Republicans chose not to do it, because they don’t care about illegal immigration. They wanted to give their rich donors a welfare handout instead.
     
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    Sure, other than the part where you made up Trump's businesses helping them get fake documents, which you pulled out of your methane producer.

    No, people who hire illegals don't break the law. People who KNOWINGLY hire illegals break the law.

    People who ask their hires if they're here illegally break the law. Do you know the law? Seems not.

    Employers are required to fill out an I9 which they keep on file for only 5 years I think, and then accept identification documents.

    If those documents appear genuine, then that is as far as a business is legally allowed to go.

    They are not even allowed to ask immigration questions before, during, or after a job offer.

    You should go read about it.
     
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    Sure, other than the Constitution not supporting single payer healthcare.

    Since you know the Constitution so well, tell me: What enumerated power of the federal government gives them the authority to mandate every US citizen purchases government-supplied health care.

    Since you know the Constitution so well, tell me: What enumerated power of the federal government gives them the authority to mandate every US citizen register their firearms.

    The only person pissing on the Constitution here is you, who obviously knows nothing about the actual document itself.
     
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    You, of course.

     
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    You're welcome to take a swing at it, Walter here seems not to ever seen a copy of it.
     
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    Well then share it with us, since you didn't really say anything.
     
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    sounds like Trump is making immigration worse
     
  17. dairyair

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    I don't have the answer to when is enough asylum seekers is enough.
    Why will a wall do to stop asylum seekers? Nothing. They still will seek asylum, just need to go through ports of entry, smuggle themselves in and never be known, go around, over or under.

    So, what is your point, I didn't see that in your answer.
    Is it, ZERO people should be allowed in?

    We don't allow all asylum seekers into US now. Many if not most, get deported.
     
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  18. dairyair

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    Sorry, I don't plant myself in front of 24/7 reality tv.
    I live a life.
     
  19. dairyair

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    I supplied him the definition.
    No where does it say, if you go past, through a country, you are no longer an asylum seeker. There is no stipulation on that at all.
     
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    Yeah that would be from the post WW2 UN resolution.

    If you want to skip a country on your journey for a bigger paycheck, you're not really a refugee.
     
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    I understand faux tv watchers don't know all the facts. That's ok. His companies helped illegals get fake documents.
    Helping immigrants get fake docs so they can hire them is KNOWINGLY hiring illegals. I understand the right has to give people like tRUMP a pass. It's how partisan politics plays out in this country.
     
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    Well then I suppose you could prove that his company helped them obtain fake documents.
     
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    I did share. Rape has been around, even before rape was defined.
     
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    More like the idiots who claim there is no problem.
     
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    That's not making a point. That's just stating the obvious.

    Let's get to the point.

    Which would you rather have: a lower rape rate without illegals, or a higher rape rate with them.
     

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