Bernie Asked About Failures of Socialism in Venezuela and Refuses to Comment

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  1. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee Bernie, why not comment on how great you think it is when you can't feed your family because of this insane form of government you are pushing. Stupid people won't care until it's too late, then they'll wonder why they ever voted for this insane form of government.

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...lism-in-venezuela-dodges-on-response-n2169817

    It's no surprise Democrat Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is an advocate of socialism. He's openly advocated for socialist policies on the 2016 campaign trail and back in the 1980s, Sanders argued bread lines are a sign of economic progress.

    "You know, it's funny. Sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is when people are lining up for food. That's a good thing. In other countries, people don't line up for food. The rich get the food and the poor starve to death," Sanders lamented at the time.
     
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    Can you provide a video in English without the Spanish over it?

    I would be genuinely interested in hearing it?
     
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    You might want to learn the difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism.
     
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    Don't worry. I have found one myself and your link obviously speaks Spanish over it to make Bernie look as bad as possible and furthermore cuts off three quarters of his answer.

    http://fusion.net/video/307108/bernie-sanders-acknowledges-he-should-know-more-about-latin-america/

    I am not saying it is a great interview by Sanders (in fact it is bad) but the OP is blatantly misrepresenting what happened in the interview.

    Although, I am not surprised considering the level on debate offered by conservatives on this forum.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sanders would never get a bill through congress.
     
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    Bernie's silence denotes support. If his versions of Socialism is that much different he should have been critical of the Venezuela model and told us how his version of socialism is that much different
     
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    His legislative experience would say otherwise.

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    Again.

    He wasn't silent. The link posted by the original poster cut off almost everything he said.
     
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    That does seem to be the way PF is headed: lies, edits, and misrepresentation
    Sad
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    After 9 years in Congress, sanders only sponsored one bill that passed.

    Even Hillary has a better record than that.

    lol
     
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    He cannot answer because any answer would be a lie.
     
  11. WittySocrates

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    I forgot how the President sponsors so many bills.

    I was referring to the many bills he has improved through amendment that have passed and his experience working with both sides of congress to get legislation through the congress
     
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    I can't believe I am saying this again.

    Bernie Sanders does answer the question. The source provided by the OP blatantly misrepresents what he says.
     
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    It's like the difference between being "overweight" and being "plus sized", right?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I forget how the president amends bills in congress.
     
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    So what did he say?
     
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    I honestly worry for the level of intellect on this forum sometimes.

    The point is that amending bills shows an ability to work with others.

    A quality that has yet to be shown by the Republican nominee.


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    I have provided a source on the first page of this thread.
     
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    No it doesn't. Sanders has been on thirteen committees which means he can add whatever in the hell he wants to a bill with no negotiation.

    What he does is add pork to bills.

    If he was actually any good he would have passed original legislation.
     
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    I saw that but where I live is a bad connection and I cant download video. Ill look for text but can you give me a simple yes or no answer? Did Bernie say anything negative about Venezuela's form of socialism?
     
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    First of all, you have already said he has passed original legislation.

    Secondly, Senior Republicans who have worked with Sanders would disagree with your analysis. For example, Jon McCain, a former POW, has praised the work Sanders has done for veteran affairs.

    This whole thread is laughable. The OP starts the thread with a purposefully misleading link and not one conservative says a word.
     
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    It was appropriate for Sanders not to comment on specific foreign affairs. He leaves that to Trump whose asinine comments for world leaders has lead him (and his obsequious supplicants) to be the laughing stock of the planet
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    Thank you. It seems to me Bernie refused to answer a direct question on the Venezuela version of socialism which leads me to believe his version is not that much different.

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    Bernie is running as a socialist and owes it to voters to define how his version of socialism is different from failed socialist states
     
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    He turns the issue in one on domestic issues while acknowledging that he is weak on Latin America.

    He does not comment positively or negatively on Venezuela.

    As I said earlier, still not a great answer but far better than the source posted by the OP would have you believe.


    That source, while not quite as bad, does cut out a significant part of the answer.
     
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    Question is why is he weak on Latin America? As a proponent of socialism he should be well educated on countries that are socialist. What is he basing his entire ideology on if not on countries that practice what he preaches?
     
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    Who died and put you in charge of what Sanders supports want?
     

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