Bernie Sanders announces he will seek re-election

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  1. Wildjoker5

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    Win what, the award for bilking the most out of his supporters and giving no results? Maybe he'll buy a 4th house in which his wife can be confined for tax evasion and embezzlement.
     
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    Bernie crushes Trump in the 2020 election.
     
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    You do not need to lecture me about the evils of socialism/ communism. Both of my grandfathers were sent to Siberia by the Russians ( aka communists). One was a small businessman shoe making shops and tailor charged with being a bourgeois capitalist, the other was accused of giving food to Partisans and and being a " land owner" becuse he bought out a couple three failed farms and was successful.

    When the Russian communists ( it' redundnt theybwerecall commies) came into Western Ukraine in 1939 they told the people on their filthy scummy Rusun language " sho moiyo toh tvoiyo, sho tviyo to motion" - trnslated from commie talk to a human language " what i your is mine, what is mine is yours". Then they confiscated farms and businesses and stole livestock. Then shot resisters or sent them to Siberia.
     
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    Ok, will be interesting to see.
     
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    It will be interesting. If Sanders is not torpedoed by the corrupt AF DNC and Wasserman-Shitz then we won't have any problems. Bernie was the best candidate to defeat Trump and Clinton the worst. Second time around and Sanders will have 4 years of scandal, abuse of power, and general grabassery to rant and rave about.
     
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    Any one that promises free stuff, and tells the masses they are victims, they can win. The question is have democrats pumped out enough stupid people in the schools they run. Scary
     
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    Poor snowflake
     
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    Jesus Christ Bernie doesn't support "free stuff." It's simply a different expenditure of taxes. First of all, we need to stop corporate handouts, end citizens united, and stop the massive, massive waste of the military. Once we do that we can adequately fund things that are common sense, instead of the sheer idiocy and lunacy of pure republican spend nothing platforms.
     
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    I'm just glad Bernie wasn't around to write the Constitution.

    As a politician in the early 21st century, he's a just a cartoon character.
     
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    Utter nonsense. Bernie is a centrist on plenty of positions, something this country needs far more then a corporate cum dumpster, like Trash Heap King DJT.
     
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    Huh? Why do you lie, he wants free health care, everyone gets 15 an hour, open boarders, free college.
    Hand outs to companies that employ thousands of employees!? That bothers you? Awkward... lol

    Bernie would continue job killing restrictions on the poor.

    Only way he wins is if nazi propagandist like you continue lie to the masses
     
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    Funny. I'd say, the very second that we stop having government provide things like defense, that those dollars simply revert back to the citizens who pay the taxes. Given that there wouldn't be a need for those funds, folks should see them back in their own bank accounts. We don't pay for those "common sense things" because no one else agrees with you that they are in fact "common sense".... What is sheer lunacy is believing that folks would simply stand idly by while the government extorts our income on the premise that would pay for such useless overhead....
     
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    It is common sense to go with single payer. It is common sense to alter the way a lot of government agencies work - for example, child protective services ought to actually assist parents with their funding instead of stealing children and adopting them out - it is common sense to do these things and the majority of americans don't agree with asshattery republican notions of corporatist dick greasing, as we have now.

    Bernie is the better choice and will be a moderate, not a fringe psychopath dyed orange.
     
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    A centrist? He's not even a Democrat or Republican. He's a freakin' Socialist. He's to the left of 99% of all Americans.

    If he's a centrist, I suppose Mao and Stalin are mainstream liberals?
     
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    Do you know the definition of socialism? Seriously
     
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    Nazi propaganda is reserved for its rightist roots, learn your political science.

    Healthcare is never free. Riddle me this.

    I already pay deductibles, co-pays, taxes, %'s, and premiums. Why not have one single entity handle the entire payment structure. Health insurance is not and never will be a competitive market because profiteering off health is inhumane filth. It's also, in my estimation, an abuse of the constitution.

    I pay more out of pocket now than I would with single payer. Remember, single payer is not government run healthcare. It's simply an elimination of health insurance companies. It automatically eliminates government intervention in things like pre-existing conditions, because nothing would be denied - and nor should it.-

    As far as education is concerned, we clearly need to drastically change our system. DeVoss is a fraud and a failure. Time for something new.
     
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    He's a centrist on plenty of issues. He has political dexterity that neither HRC or DJT had. And while he is a democratic socialist, that's far different then the evangelical psychopath we have elected, or the fascist right wing lunatic Hillary would have been.

    He's also pro-2nd amendment and against seizing guns. He wants common sense gun control.

    And I think the whole "rabid fear of socialism" thing needs to stop now. It's pathetically contrived and ridiculously strewn about in every out of context conversation any rightist has.

    Your ****ing fire department is socialized. I bet you would be sad if it wasn't.
     
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    Everyone read the article and knows this has nothing to do with the 2020 presidential election, right? That the article is referring to him running for another term as senator of Vermont?

    Anyone?

    Bueller? Bueller?
     
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    The definition of Nazi is the socialist workers party lol how is that the right? Again more lies and propaganda.. that is all left wing ideology.


    Health care is no longer affordable Because bureaucrats started to give it away for free. When we were paying for it with no assistance it was affordable.. and you want to to continue the reason prices continue to rise lol

    Nope...

    Your are arguing facts. Sad.. I will personally educate the masses. You can’t shut down my speach.
     
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    Wrong. That's not the definition. It's the TITLE. The Nazis openly fought against liberals and in many cases summarily executed them or sent them off to concentration camps. The logical conclusion of far right politics is fascism. The left gets Marxism. Little difference between the two but extremism is extremism. You lot on the right don't get to escape the ghost of your past with your now chic denialism of history.

    Again, and I repeat - it's never been free. You're spewing illogical nonsense out your ass. Stop listening to Limbaugh and the other cronies on the right and use that gray mush between your ears for something good and useful.

    I already said. I pay co-pays, deductibles, premiums, taxes, and fees into this system already. I am taxed for the healthcare of others. After that I pay for my own. Why not eliminate the premiums, co-pays, deductibles and just ****ing nationalize the system to single payer so it's simply taxed at a lower rate and paid for by the fed and there is no more abuse by insurance companies.

    There really is absolutely no reason for insurance companies to exist in the healthcare market, at all.

    The prices in health care are rising because:

    1. Americans are getting older - the baby boomers are driving prices up because as you get older, omg, you tend to have health problems.

    2. Hospital mergers are leveraging a massive amount of bully power at the point of contact, holding insurers hostage to paying higher amounts (and thus billing for them) because these mergers gobble up patient loads and then give the hospitals the power to say "We won't accept your insurance."

    3. Americans are getting fatter. The population is obese, grotesque and shallow. This all increases healthcare costs.

    4. Republican idiocy that prevents Medicaid/care from bargaining prices, which was specifically designed to push for a dismantling of these programs by proxy. Since their hands are tied, hospitals can and do charge $80 for one Tylenol.

    5. Salaries in healthcare are entirely too bloated.

    There is far far more to it then your insinuation, which, I might add is obtuse and uninteresting. You can deny "facts" all you like but at the end of the day, Ahab, you ought to stop chasing the white whale.
     
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    Universal health care equates to slavery ( mandates doctors)

    And republicans are fascist? lol

    Nazi is the socialist workers party. Right wing Americans believe in individual freedom, less restrictions, free speech, and everyone owning a gun! lol it is impossible to have fascism if you promote free speech, guns and INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM! Lol
    All reasons health care is unaffordable is because of socialism! We started to give it away for free! Like every thing else that is FREE people got greedy! End socialism! Do it now!
     
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    Universal health care equates to slavery ( mandates doctors)

    And republicans are fascist? lol

    Nazi is the socialist workers party. Right wing Americans believe in individual freedom, less restrictions, free speech, and everyone owning a gun! lol it is impossible to have fascism if you promote free speech, guns and INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM! Lol
    All reasons health care is unaffordable is because of socialism! We started to give it away for free! Like every thing else that is FREE people got greedy! End socialism! Do it now!
     
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    You can argue non-points all you like, at the end of the day you never addressed a thing I said beyond "socialism". You're wrong about Nazism and you're also incorrect about healthcare. Single payer is not ****ing slavery, get a grip with your fringe lunatic talking points.

    Single payer replaces health insurance, and it is not the same as healthcare.
     
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    There is absolutely no connection nazis to republicans. None... you can saying with no evidence all day long but you have none. Except Nazi propaganda...

    If the gov mandates free health care you will need doctors . You will force doctors to do work, that is slavery.

    I did respond to all of the negative things about healthcare today.. it all stems from socialism..

    End it now!
     

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