Bernie Sanders Shows How Reagan Destroyed The Middle Class

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  1. MrNick

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    Obviously the wars were very much funded by congress and democrats were more than willing to issue funding which is something progressives choose to A) forget or B) think intelligent people who understand government and our legislative process works are too stupid to realize this.

    Democrats overwhelmingly supported the war - if they didn't they wouldn't have consistently funded it..

    Oh and to add insult to injury the opposition came from republicans/libertarians such as Ron Paul.

    Our wars are hardly partisan, it just so happens that progressives believe presidents are kings and can rule as such.
     
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    Stop projecting dummy, OUT OF CONTEXT VIDS? Sreiously? lol

    Dems were talking 2003-2004 ACCOUNTING SCANDALS DUMMY, BEFORE DUBYA ALLOWED THE BANKSTERS TO RUN A SUBPRIME BUBBLE ON US, l

    Clinton's 40 sec clip? NOT in context with EVERYTHING he said which he l;aid at Duby's feet!
     
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    Who needs videos?

    If progressives paid attention in school they would know that it takes a congress to fund a war.

    If they paid attention at the time they would realize that democrats were more than willing to fund war..
     
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    Dummy, FUNDING MEANS CUTTING SPENDING OR GET NEW REVENUES. Sure the Demns allowed Dubya to put his wars on the CC


    60% OF Dems in Congress opposed DUBYA'S WAR OF choice
     
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    Sure it was wonderful, THAT'S why Reagan only created 14 million jobs in 8 years in the PRIVATE sector. Carter had 9+ million in 4. Clinton 20+ in his 8


    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001
     
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    Clinton set the stage for our economic collapse... The (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dummy only believed that credit was a "right."

    Notice how those "no money down" commercials are a thing of the past?
     
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    Dummy, FUNDING means you cut spending OR get revenues, Dubya did the opposite, GUTTED revenues to Korean war levels AS he went to two wars, lol
     
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    The first bill Bush wanted was drawn up in committee and voted on. It failed. I think by two or three votes. If I remember right, about three Republicans voted against it with the Democrats. Not one Democrat voted for it and it never made it out of committee. They tried putting one or two more up, can't remember now and Bush vetoed it as not being strong enough. He explained it on that White House statement I put up. That's a hell of a lot different than saying he didn't want regulations. He was always pushing for it. It came to late to save F/M and F/M
     
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    BS, progressives like Carter used taxpayer money to "buy jobs" and Clinton was worse - he created jobs by eased lending.

    Democrats have ZERO concept on how to let the free market create jobs without manipulating capitalism.
     
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    WEIRD, DUBYA HAD HOUSEHOLD DEBT DOUBLE FROM 2001-2007, THAT ON CLINTON??? LOL

    Q When did the Bush Mortgage Bubble start?

    A The general timeframe is it started late 2004.

    From Bush’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets October 2008

    “The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”



    Q Did the Community Reinvestment Act under Carter/Clinton caused it?


    A "Since 1995 there has been essentially no change in the basic CRA rules or enforcement process that can be reasonably linked to the subprime lending activity. This fact weakens the link between the CRA and the current crisis since the crisis is rooted in poor performance of mortgage loans made between 2004 and 2007. "

    http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/20081203_analysis.pdf



    Next you'll blame Barney, lol
     
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    Show us where Johnson funded Vietnam. He cut taxes 21% That's 21% for the rich, the poor only got 6%.
     
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    YOU remember WRONG (because YOU are a LIAR). S109 Died in 2005 BECAUSE Bill Frist refused to let it get a vote on the Senate floor. It made it out of the senate on party line vote, WHY? Because Dubya/GOP weakened the RENTAL housing portion!!!
     
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    Sorry but presidents aren't kings and cannot spend without congressional approval.

    Why do you think Obama hates republicans so much? because they're preventing him from mortgaging the moon.
     
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    You mean he cut the RATE 21% AND closed loopholes AND brought in m,ore money, as planned, BEFORE the war took off? Yes


    DUBYA LITERALLY TOOK US FROM 20%+ OF REVENUES TO BELOW 15%, THAT'S A REAL 25%+ CUT, lol
     
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    FIRST, F/F DIDN'T cause the crisis. Second DUBYA'S POLICY HOSED F/F. Third DUBYA DIDN'T 'BELIEVE IN GOV'T OR GOV'T REGULATORS. HE 'BELIEVED IN' THE FREE MARKETS' YOU LIAR!!!'

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    Just spending is Congress? How about other policy? Prez or Congress? lol
     
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    I'm not going to argue with you that Bush's congress spent too much, however Obama has spent 3x what Bush's congress did.

    Our national debt is literally obnoxious and our GDP is terrible. It's amazing we're not a third world country.

    If you want to place blame - blame congress - blame democrats because they're the ones who spend like drunken sailors on useless ideas, however EVERY democrat in congress understands that spending is really just buying the economy so they're not opposed to ANY spending.

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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3

    Lowest SUSTAINED tax rates on those 'job creators' under Dubya/GOP 'job creator' policies, EVEN stopping Dec 2007 he only had 4 million PRIVATE sector jobs in 7 years (lost 1+ million in 8 years, lol)

    HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? WHERE WERE THOSE 'JOB CREATORS'?
     
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    Yes ALL spending has to go through congress.

    Presidents just can't spend at will.

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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3


    Clinton's final F/Y budget ends

    US debt

    09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06

    Dubya's final F/Y budget ends

    US debt
    09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75


    $6.1+ TRILLION???



    AFTER THE CBO PREDICTED A 5+ SURPLUS? GREENSPAN WENT TO THE GOP CONGRESS AND WARNED CLINTON'S POLICIES WOULD PAY THE DEBT DOWN TO FAST (TO GET DUBYA'S FIRST TAX CUT TROUGH, LOL)

    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm


    NOW, UNLIKE DUBYA WHO GUTTED FINDING, AS HE BLEW UP SPENDING, PLEASE GIVE ME THE POLICIES OBAMA HAS USED TO CREATE DEBT? PRETTY PLEASE?


    DUBYA'S POLICIES ARE STILL COSTING US, HIS POLICIES WILL ACCOUNT FOR HALF OF ALL DEBT BY 2018!!!

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    "Wingnutter" that is rich.

    I can't even trust your numbers, so It would be difficult for me to refute your claims.

    What I can tell you is that progressives solution to jobs is to tax and create more government jobs er bureaucracies, which in essence destroys wealth or our countries net worth considering I have to pay someone to spend money.

    Our government is delusional when it comes to spending because they have NO ONE to answer to except the general public which is generally ignorant when it comes to civics and finance.
     
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    Sorry, I forgot, YOU claim Obama is SPENDING three times what Dubya did. You meant the GOP Congress is. Got it, lol
     
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    The GOP Congress that's been in session for almost...1 month?
     
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    NOT my numbers, BLS. Put in the year Bubba

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001

    Yes, Reagan HUGELY increased spending AND grew Gov't jobs, JUST like Dubya. Clinton, not sooo much. lo.


    Conservative economic theory NEVER works. EVER.

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    Our national debt is almost 19 trillion... When Bush left office it was around 6.

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    no the gop house were spending bills originate that has ben in charge since 2010!!! Lol
     
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