Beslan school siege: Russia 'failed to prevent' massacre

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  1. vis

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    What a nonsense you are talking here, my friend! It is Georgia that started the artillery attack on the capital of South Ossetia. This is a fact recognized by everyone.It is Georgian army that first enterered Ossetian Tskhinvali and not Ossetian military forces entered Tbilisi.
     
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    You already talking here for couple years that Russia will be finished. In 2014 you were talking it will finish in 2014. Same repeated in 2015 and 2016. It became like a mantra for you :) Looks like you do not beleive in it yourself as this does not happen :-D
     
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    story has nothing to do with Georgia
    "Beslan (Russian: Бесла́н; Ossetian: Беслӕн, Beslæn, About this sound listen (help·info)) is a town and the administrative center of Pravoberezhny District "

    not my words, but Beslans mothers " Putler Beslan´s butcher "
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    I should note that industrialization was going on until Great Patriotic War with Nazi Germany, meanwhile everything that is related to the US assistance concerns only to the period before 1932.
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    you know that property prices went down more then 18 % right? in a month ? KSA helped you a bit, but new just down, down

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    Ah, I thought you were talking about conflict in South Ossetia. This video- is paid by western propagandists. Too much pathetic... Do not beleive in it.
     
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    No it is not propaganda.
    Some Americans had an idealistic view of the Russian revolution and were ready to help
    as individuals.

    My mother was a "Friend of the Soviet Union" in those years and told me
    no one had an idea what was really going on inside the USSR.

    There was an allegedly true "movie" of one family. The son was denied reentry into the USA
    after his parents died and became a record holder for the highest parachute jump there.
    I remember one scene where he demonstrated he eats in apple in free fall and when
    he finished the apple it was time to open the parachute.

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    not really, Nazis helped you even after 1941, USA also , but you know how is your archives work
     
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    So my advise to you- buy now property in Russia, later it will be much more expensive. Buy when the prices of the bonds go down, sell when they go up. Know this?
     
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    These are just words. I know how archives work and how everything is hidden their, but provide a proof that Nazis helped USSR after 1941. The other words you claim that Hitler was an idiot? :-D
     
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    you told me, my contact in Moscow, regularly does the same, he gave a "good price" in summer , a week ago, he gave me - 30% from his "good price" , LOL, i bet this summer it will be - 70% LOL. still i don't do speculations in Lagos in snow
     
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    Nazis were the Germans , they always follow the contracts , i will find it for you if google banned you badly
     
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    I was referring to US policy.
     
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    You obviously either know nothing or are not honest in your posting therefore there is no need to deal with BS.g
    Wrong the USA provided a tremendous amount of assistance to the USSR during WW II. Too much assistance I sould say. We should have let Germany feast on the USSR for a while so that both evils would have been irradiated.
     
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    It's ok he Has A Dream! He could be dreaming about worse things.
     
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    If they always followed the contracts, they would not have attacked Soviet Union as it violated the contract- peace treaty between USSR and Germany, so this is not an argument.
     
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    What do you call tremendous? Most of the US help went to the UK, while UK did not bear the most load of the war. Yet, the help in terms of most impoirtant things- planes and tanks was just about 10% from what was produced in the USSR. Moreover, lend-lease has nothing to do with industrialization we were talking here- building plants, developing heavy industry. So lend lease did not significantly influenced the outcome of the war. Without it it would have been the same, Germany would have been defeated, only probably one-two years later.
     
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    I do not think this obsession is good for the health of his mind :-D
     
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    Do you have a source?
     
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    They need to diversify their economy. China managed to do it. Russia can't.
     
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    Russia confessed to the atrocity over a decade ago.

    "MEDNOYE, Russia -- Polish
    and Russian leaders on
    Saturday dedicated a a
    memorial to thousands of
    Polish officers and
    Russians who were
    massacred by the Soviet
    secret police and buried
    in mass graves in this
    small town.”The Associated Press, Sunday, September 3, 2000, By MIKHAIL METZEL

    You need new textbooks.
     
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    china doest have enough oil or gas for its huge population, Muscovy today is less then half of USA population. + last 15 years oil/gas prices were crazy, when came shale-LNG revolution, Muscovy decided to start WW3 , but what else they could do? can Mongolian 13c. empire exist today? my answer is NO
     
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    It would be easier to remove the barriers to business creation than risk everything on a world war, but human governments often choose the hard way - especially for their people.
     
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    i Love you Americans, you believe that free market can fix anything , nice I believe in free market too., but so you think English, French , Spanish , Dutch empires could be saved with this cure too ?
     
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    A free market only creates wealth and raises the standard of living. It does not prevent a powerful corrupt political class from evolving toward some flavor of tyranny.
     

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