Beto O'Rourke interrupts Texas Gov. Abbott's press conference: "You're offering us nothing"

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Are you suggesting that gun confiscation is the only possible solution?

    If so, I can see why you are scared. But, the fact is that confiscation is most definitely NOT the only solution.

    So, that's a failed excuse for not caring about the deaths of children.
     
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    Maybe they need detainment camps for some reason.
     
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    Well I'm certainly not for the gov knowing a damned thing about what I own it's not their business. I'm not for pretending one gun is scarier than another. I'm for going after the actual criminals who are preying on society, and hardening the layers of security around places, like gun-free zones, where loons had shoot/blow things up.
     
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    You seem confused here. I pointed out that I don't believe his tactics made sense. So, you don't have to keep up your ad hom on Beto.

    The point is that Abbott is not just blocking O'Rourke. He and other Republicans in office are blocking the entire subject of gun violence.

    And, I don't just mean today. Abbott has claimed there would be an opportunity to address this issue and then failed to do so on MANY previous occasions.

    So, when he suggests that AGAIN this time, why should I not believe he's just once again blowing smoke??
     
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    The kid in this case was not a criminal.

    And, that's the way these mass killings have worked.

    They haven't been criminals until they started shooting.

    >>> So, your "go after the criminals" thing is TOTAL BS.
     
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    That's really poor cope.

    There's never a reason for detainment camps except for the house dissidents from a totalitarian regime.
     
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    I'm not confused I just didn't mention it because I didn't care you were pathetic nonsense is pathetic and nonsense it's not confusing.
    the fact that you cry about it delights me.
    no they aren't Beto did not want to talk about gun violence. He never does he wants to talk about gun control he just uses gun violence as an excuse.

    If you could have an honest discussion maybe he would get his opportunity.

    But denying him the ability to perch upon the corpses of children as his bully pulpit was the right thing to do.
    I think this object has been addressed plenty. Beto wants gun control and Texas said no. He is not capable of being persuasive if you was then he would be.
    Same reason we don't listen to anyone else's temper tantrums.
     
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    Well with the kids be any less dead if they were killed with the revolver or shotgun?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Jesus Christ Almighty and this coming from a country where we are proposing laws which arrest women for removing unwanted growths, and we still jail people for long terms if they put prohibited substances into their OWN bodies.

    But yeh, we got a buncha guns and crazy people kill us right and left, to protect our FFREEEDOOMMMM
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Gun advocates would end all law entirely because some people still disobey them

    (That would also be their paradise, where they could shoot anyone they wanted with impunity. There is an underlying reason so many of them defend random murder so strenuously, These child killers are living the dream, they are USING their weaponry to butcher their fellows )
     
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    Well, we know Australia is not a totalitarian regime, so maybe you should cite your "detainment camp" claim.
     
  12. WillReadmore

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    The issue is safety. There are various directions to improve safety.

    My bet is that it will require several kinds of change to make the needed progress.
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Getting RID OF ALL THE ****** GUNS will be the first and by far most effective step.
     
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    Pipe dream.
     
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    Do we know that? The way they acted over covid makes me doubt it.

    Before you go off saying something about extreme measures that's the type of excuse the territorians use.
     
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    That didn't answer my question.

    Would they be any less dead if they were killed with a revolver yes or no?
     
  17. WillReadmore

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    The type of gun is only one of numerous aspects of this problem of people legally or illegally owning guns and slaughtering school kids.

    If what you're saying is that ALL types of guns need to be dramatically reduced in number, I'm all for that.
     
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    America is made on pipe dreams. Indeed, it is something of a pipe dream itself.
     
  19. WillReadmore

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    Yes. We know they are NOT totalitarian.

    I haven't said anything about "extreme measures".
     
  20. Polydectes

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    Why do they need to be reduced?
     
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    No we don't. They've been acting pretty totalitarian for the last couple of years
    so you don't think in prisoning and kidnapping citizens to place them in a concentration camp is an extreme measure?
     
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    Well, very strict gun laws certainly has worked in Mexico. Honduras and El Salvador have strict gun laws too. If we modeled our gun laws after theirs, I'm sure that we would see similar results. Don't you think?
     
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  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    No, I think we don't need strict gun laws but prohibitive gun laws, which would prohibit gun possession and use to police, military and very stringently licensed civilians. We don't need ANY guns, period.
     
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    Yes,that's what I said. Prohibitive gun laws, like you mentioned, are in place in Mexico, Honduras, and El Salvador.
     
  25. WillReadmore

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    Is it your opinion that these countries are so similar to America that we can use them as test cases for policy decisions?

    Or, were you trying for humor?
     
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