Biden Administration's Anti-Catholic Hate Thou shalt have no other gods before ... HHS?

Religion involves worship. Non belief in a sky grandpa is not a religion. I don’t go anywhere on a specific day of the week to donate money to those in charge of not believing. There is no such person. There is no place to go and nothing to worship.

We just want to be free of laws that only exist because some guy heard from a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy that some guy claiming to be god said so a few decades ago.

 

LOL, even not quoting properly is a sign of hate to a rightie !!!


So pathetic...

And your projection is quite amusing, the rantings of a hater

 

Sure, religion involves worship.

So what do you worship as a devout athiest? Maybe a rock star or some celebrity? How about money? Money makes a fine idol to worship. Just what is worship if not admiration?

 

I don't worship anyone or any thing. If you worship anyone other than Jesus, isn't that a top 3 violation of your God's law?

 

Sort of. First one in the Ten Commandments- God said, "You will have no other gods before Me."

So you don't have any super heroes like Fleetwood Mac or Amiliea Erhardt. What about ideals? What ideals do you hold highest?

 

Libertarian. Max freedom to max people.

 

I said it was a religious point of view which is not the same thing as a religion. Note the root word of atheism is theism.

 

A non view is not a view. My agnostic self leans atheist, and if needed to save my life,I’d say atheist. A non belief is not a belief. Is you not believing that unicorns can turn hurricanes into rainbows, a belief? Perhaps a belief in what’s real, but nothing more than that. The rainbow farting unicorn is as believable to non believers, as is the whole virgin birth silliness.

 

By that definition you shouldn't even aware be that you are an atheist or an agnostic. Your argument lack taxonomic coherence.

 

Which, in the end, isn't just anarchy it's complete and utter chaos without any sort standards, because in who are you to limit my freedom of action and vice versa.

 

Ah so this is one of those instances where one can give a bunch of examples and you will never admit that he advocates for abortion. Thanks for clearing that up. It is quite obvious that he made that order to protect abortions, as the article even admits it was made in response to RvW being struck down, a ruling that protected abortion. The whole "reproductive healthcare" wording is nothing more than word play to try and make it sound like its not about abortion. Both you and I know that. But you will refuse to admit because it doesn't suit your agenda.

I've never said it was murder. And I do not have a pastor or priest. Read post 40 in this very thread and you'll see my view of religions. You see, this is a huge problem with leftists. They cannot argue without using strawmen and assumptions and guile.

 

This lacks coherent thought. Can you translate this word salad to English?

Libertarian means I don’t tell you what to do and you don’t tell me what to do. HUGE caveat, I don’t harm you and you don’t harm me.

In no way does Libertarianism condone violence against another. A legitimate function of government is to ensure those who choose violence against others be incarcerated.

 

"""Libertarian means I don’t tell you what to do and you don’t tell me what to do."""

...and religious folks want to tell everyone what to do, it's all about their need to control... a mental disorder....and it's not to "benefit society" it's to gain power and driven by ego..

They even have to control what you call yourself........isn't it weird how they need you to say atheism is a religion...


There would be no need for the word "atheism" if there was no pretend "god".

 

Aww, don't be that way. This is America. We keep things legal that I don't agree with personally, but I'm not calling for them to be banned. Does that mean I'm advocating for them? I don't think so, but if you want to use that word that's fine. I don't really care that much. As for what the Pope thinks, the Pope has no basis to be anti-abortion either. Abortion happened in the days of the bible. Jesus never spoke out against it. It was a known thing that happened. Life didn't begin at conception back then. I mean if you want to get technical, the only biblical reference to the beginning of human life was when God breathed into Adam and he drew breath. That means at birth. So there really isn't an actual biblical reason for the Pope to care. He cares because of culture wars which have been going on for a lot longer than most people realize.

Abortion is a medical procedure, it is health care. If it's not, then what is it? Please use your own words being mindful of your statement below...

Yes, it's a huge problem. Forgive me for making the most common assumption in this argument. It's not like I've seen 40 posts that say abortion is murder...which just so happens to be what religious say. So if abortion isn't murder, in your opinion, why do you care if Joe Biden advocates for it? And why do you care if that makes him a "bad" Catholic?

 

We're going in circles now and have already been through this.

According to Catholicism the Pope speaks for God. As such it doesn't matter what the Bible says.

Again, its all about word play. Like I said, leftists love to use guile. They don't want people thinking of abortion. The killing of a human. They want people to think of the woman only and make it sound as if its an OK thing so they use different and softer words.



Face the truth.

I don't care about what the Pope thinks of Biden or why it makes him a bad catholic. <--- You'll note that is actually the first time in this thread I've commented on my thoughts about that.

As for why do I care about him advocating for abortion? Because I'm against abortion. Because it is the killing of an innocent human. You'll note that I did not say murder. But killing. Because as you noted "murder" is a legal term about the unlawful killing of a human. Killing however is a generalized term that is about any and all forms of death caused by something other than natural causes. One day I hope to add having an abortion (except in special circumstances) be indicated as a murder. But legally it is not....for now.

 

Catholics don't believe that any longer. Do you know how many Catholics don't believe Francis is a legitimate Pope because they disagree with what he says? There are many on this forum. So, if a true Catholic can truly believe that a Pope is illegitimate because of what they say, it means they don't believe that he talks to God directly. Both can't be true at the same time.

 

He hates the Church he is a member of and attends?

...
Some bishops think America's second Catholic president should be denied the Eucharist. Are Biden's faith and job title an unworkable mix?

On the matter of faith, President Joe Biden is not shy.

Each weekend that he is in town, he goes to Mass in Washington. A motorcade takes him on Saturday evenings or Sunday mornings to Holy Trinity, the church where President Kennedy, the only other Catholic US president, used to attend services. He makes the sign of the cross at public events, and his Catholicism is woven into his speeches and policies.

A question of faith: Biden, Catholicism and the presidency - BBC News

 

Ill agree to that.

Back to the OP... you are not forced to be serviced at a religious hospital who desires to display or act in a way consistent with their beliefs.

Thus, the desire to force the church to be secular due to their acceptance of Medicare of Medicaid is not prescribing to forcing you to participate in their religion. Agreed?

 

I've no issue with the candles.

True story - when I was 18, and poor, I got my birth control from Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois, where I was born. I was given the pills once a month on a sliding scale, based on income. It's weird how the Catholic Church recognized the need to reduce unwanted pregnancies in the 80s, but now thinks it's immoral to take birth control. It's incomprehensible to me how backwards this country is sliding since then.

 

I don't really think we are.

Our services include:

• Prenatal, labor, delivery and newborn care
• Well-woman gynecological care
• Pap smears
• Contraception

https://birthguidechicago.com/facil...edical-center-oak-lawn-doctor-attended-birth/

 

Do you remember when Hobby Lobby refused to allow contraception into their health care package? That's the kind of crap I'm talking about.

 

Cause everybody has the right to have intercourse without unforeseen consequences?

 

WTF? Humans are sexual creatures, by design. The horny turns on at puberty. For most of human history, the natural order of things was girls started having sex when they started bleeding. It's only recently that girls weren't considered women at 13.

So, yes, asking horny teenagers to stop being horny goes against nature. So, yes, we should be teaching kids on how to do this without consequences.

 

Yeah, last I heard pregnancy does not "just happen".

 

Seems you believe he has to worship someone or something. Is that the case? Do you believe that?