Biden has created more jobs in 2 years, than any President in history in any 4 year-term

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  1. AARguy

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    Deficit is chump change compared to the debt... and Dems have run the DEBT... through the roof.
     
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    Which is binary thinking. According to you anything I say is automatically wrong, especially given that you do not explain how I was wrong.

    I view your comments as making excuses for your own ignorance.

    You have still not explained how I was wrong in saying that Trump shut down the businesses which is what was recommended.
     
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    :banana: They sure are! ;)

    Seriously, I noticed how Biden conveniently bragged about his job creation while conveniently omitting the fact that inflation is at a record high under his reign. If Biden is going to take credit, he must also take credit for everything he's done. He cannot blame this on his predecessor as inflation statistics did not spike until his presidency had already begun. Just like Biden to ignore that interest rates will also have to rise to curb inflation. Biden paints a rosy garden, but like always he's full of manure. :spin:
     
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    How succinctly stated. :applause:
     
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    There is a lot going on here. Yes, there are a lot of jobs unfilled. It is too easy to live on welfare and not work. Republicans want welfare to include work, democrats want a guaranteed income with no work requirement. Biden seeks to catch side hustles with taxing Venmo and other cash transfer systems. There are pros and cons.
    The attached jobs chart shows most went to hospitality. Which makes me wonder if the new immigrant (illegal) workforce is part of the numbers.
    Regarding “unemployed, not looking”. Many are baby boomer’s offspring living on inheritances from deceased parents.
    The we have homeless. They are in the not looking crowd.
    And regarding living off the taxpayers, with a side hustle plus welfare, you can have a reasonable life free of the constraints of a schedule.
    I get that this is over simplified, but talking about unemployment in a country this big is complicated.
    Lastly, this gain carries hazards. It is inflationary, and inflation and interest rates rising slow demand, so we may get massive layoffs coupled with falling demand for finished goods and that will guarantee a recession.
    TL;DR: look beyond the headline.
     
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    yep, Trump created warp speed AFTER the vaccine had entered trials, warp speed was a glorified group of people responsible for making pre-orders... probably created to fool people into thinking he took some bigger role for the creation of the vaccine
     
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    Ok, 3 1/2 million more jobs than T****'s best.
    This is why inflation jumped. So many joining the workforce and getting paid while production tries to catch up.
     
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    Inflation will increase totals, looks great on paper but is it real?
     
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    Jackass state governments locking down caused the economy to tank so he's a problem caused by democrats.

    So it recovering is a symptom of recovery has nothing to do with what Biden did in fact Biden wanted to destroy it further he was just stopped by the court.
     
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    I wouldn't call the news media and their acolytes the people. The people seem to go back and forth.
    recovering from the covid Nazism isn't Biden in fact in Brighton wanted to continue it he was just stopped by the court.
    I'm glad the country is recovering from Democrats attempting to destroy it. But it's not because of Biden and he was part of the problem.
    this coming from people who worship the dear leader the irony is palpable.
     
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    Its certainly something he can brag about, but I still don't think he will run for 2nd term.

    No, Trump didn't create any. As a matter of fact, he increased unemployment by about 25% (it was 4.7 in Jan 2017 and 6.3 Jan 2021)

    Of course, but president are blamed or credited with whatever happens under their term.

    Inflation is nowhere near the record, and even what we have is a direct result of 2020.

     
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    yes, the Trump shutdown and reopen guidelines should have been ignored by the States, agree
     
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    Go Biden....

     
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    Off hand it looks like ur taking the partial numbers from the Establishment Survey and I used the broader numbers from the Household survey which added in all the self employed/management.

    Something else is that it looks like I erred when I said--
    --and my thinking now is that it should be that we got a 10 million gain in 24 months versus a 16 million gain in the previous 8 months. While I'm happy for the 3-1/2 million new employees, I can't help but wonder whether we couldn't do better than that. The reason is seen in the employment/population ratio:

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    --which points to somewhat of a lack-luster rebound.
     
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    I have a hard time believing that the person who wrote that has any remaining brain cells. It is wrong on so many levels.
     
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    Yes, but people like DeSantis said "Yes Sir" and shut down their States.
     
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    That's not how international diplomacy works. We have always told the world that, even though the party in charge might change, there is a continuation in our international agreements. The ONLY President in history who undermined this policy was Trump. Anyway... off topic.
     
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    There as no date of departure. It was a step-by-step, quid pro quo agreement (YOU do this and WE'LL do THAT). It never got past stepONE so the deal was CANCELLED. Biden, instead of getting a new agreement... just RAN AWAY.
     
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    Its possible gas is $5 in Texas, and shame on them for ripping off their citizens. I also filled up with a bit over $3.

    Correct, and as soon as he did that, the Afgans started making their own deals with the Talibal about giving the country over.

    Now we are out, and not spending any more blood and treasure there.
     
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    Wrong! But again you make claims you didn't research. But I'm not going to do your research for you. Read my sig!!!
     
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    Regardless of whether that's true or not, that's NOT what binary thinking means. But I have explained it to you too many times already.
     
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    Sure, the points in ur post are all believable but my question is what exactly are u saying as a whole, that we're better off or worse off?
     
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    NOTHING of relevance has changed about welfare. Nothing that would make a significant change to the jobs report. In fact, Covid benefits have ended... and we' STILL saw jobs being created at a spectacular rate.

    The only remedy to "wondering" is research. Read my sig! But the fact that you made this statement tells me unequivocally that you are desperately cherry-picking looking for something negative in the creation of over half a million jobs. Whatever is negative in this jobs report is negative in ALL job reports. And if, despite the negatives, we managed to reduce unemployment. So all you've been doing is making up ad-hoc excuses.

    Biden didn't invent baby-boomers. So another ad-hoc excuse.

    Biden did not invent the homeless, or people who are not looking. So far, you have said nothing of substance.

    And that fact didn't suddenly change in January 2023. It has been complicated in all the history of job reports.

    That's what we've been hearing since Trump was President. And somehow it hasn't happened. I addressed this in the OP. It's more than likely that a recession will happen. We've known this since 2020. And my expectation is that it will be a strong one. So if Biden manages to get us a soft recession, he will have proven himself worthy of the Presidency. Because avoiding one would be super-human.
     
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    Regardless of whether you have explained, it is binary thinking.

    "Binary thinking is the examination of scenarios from an either/or perspective. It allows individuals to simplify cognitive processes by seeing a situation in black or white, but not gray. This allows them to clearly see major advantages and disadvantages of a situation, but they may miss the finer details to make an informed decision."

    You are claiming I am always wrong. Not sometimes right. Not sometimes wrong. Black or white with no gray.
     
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    We are worse off. We have a large segment of the population who is neither working nor looking for work.
     

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