Biden Repeals Trump Ban On Military Funding For Sex Reassignment Surgeries

If this is true I am not a fan of having taxpayers pay for sex organ mutilation surgery. I am not going to call th Transiacs "sickos" as you apparently are alluding they are but I am not going to be happy paying for their fanatasies.

 

Those are not new recruits...

"While, in general, the U.S. military will not accept recruits diagnosed with diabetes, that is especially the case with patients who use insulin, which is seen as an automatic disqualification. The situation is different, however, in military personnel already serving."
https://www.usmedicine.com/2020-com...olled-diabetes-allowed-to-remain-in-military/

So exactly as I said, T1D's are not admitted to the military.

It was your claim that the surgery helps them cope. If that isn't the case then fine, you should stop posting that. People with dysphoria severe enough to lead to suicide are not qualified to serve, regardless of any surgery or treatment. Its just a bad idea.

The military, or by extension the taxpayers, gain nothing by paying for elective surgery. Call it a reward, a bonus, or whatever, its just a stupid idea. If you want elective surgery, take your signing bonus if you get one, and pay for it yourself.

 

I woke up this morning feeling like something was missing, like I wasn't in the right body. I'm gonna need some bewbs ASAP. Question, can i sign up for the Army, get the surgery and then claim depression because of gender dysphoria and then not have to serve, but still get the free bewbies? please tell me if this will work. I needs me some free double D's ASAP!

 

Right but that isn’t what I claimed and you’re saying is wrong. I just said we have soldiers with diabetes serving. All you’ve done is prove my point.

Right because they’re suicidal, not because they’re dysphoric. They’re not the same thing.

And you’re not getting it. It’s the process of getting GCS that helps to cope along with the surgery. It’s not elective. It helps with dysphoria and it becomes an institutionalized way of saying the military will defend the rights of trans people. The surgery helps but so does everything else that goes into it. It’s the system that keeps trans people from becoming more dysphoric and stressed out.

 

I going to bow out.

I respect you opinion, but I don't have a PC bone in my body. The last thing I would ever want is to offend anyone, especially here, when I am clearly out of my depth. Let me say this, I stand beside you in your quest for equality. No one should feel discriminated against in America. Just because we walk different paths, dose not mean our goal of "all people were created equal" is different.

 

Then that's fine, I understand. Thank you for this conversation.

 

Thank you....Its nice to hear a voice of reason!

 

BRAVO !

 

They must have changed this since I was in (90's). A friend had to get out because he developed T1D while he was serving.

 

FFS, recruits need to be fit to serve before allowed entry!!! Is that too hard to understand? If the (trans) soldier is fit to serve then surgery is elective!! We don't pay for soldiers to have elective surgery!!
That said, I'll stand by my unpopular opinion that trans people have no place in our armed forces.

 

People join to pay for college which can end up being more expensive. I don’t see a problem.

 

Military recruits have always been required to be physically ready to become soldiers, not in need of some surgery at the time of enlistment.

 

Trans individuals in need of GCS make up an extreme minority of people. Such a small portion of incoming recruits would have a negligible affect of combat readiness.

 

That is an incredibly dumb argument. Trans people just want it as a promise for joining. Not a citizen but want to join? Then they shouldn’t be allowed in because citizenship is elective! Not financial secure but join for money? Paychecks are elective! Listen to that argument and think about what that means.

No one is denying that they need to be mentally fit. But there’s a difference between being mentally unfit and being trans. Trans soldiers already passed as mentally fit well before this happened. Why should this be controversial now?

 

What an asinine response! The military doesn't pay for elective surgery. Full stop. And why in f*** would the military promise an expensive surgery to attract a tiny % of the population who would be questionable recruits in general?
What the military does off is the GI bill, free training, room and board, medical, dental, retirement. You want something elective YOU pay for it. It's not a hard concept to grasp but your persistent obtuse responses tell me you won't get it.

 

The point of recruiting is to IMPROVE combat readiness.

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So what the military provides is what incentives people to join? And that’s why trans people shouldn’t join because of the incentives the military gives? People don’t need sex either but the military spends more on viagra than they do GCS.

 

No, you can't enlist if you have diabetes.

The best way to find out where the military stands on diabetes is to speak with a military recruiter. However, it’s generally a hard stance taken by the military when it comes to Type 1, Type 1.5 and Type 2 diabetes. All military branches take the same, hard stance and do not allow those with Type 1, Type 1.5 and Type 2 diabetes to enlist.

While you can try to go through the medical waiver process, you will likely still get told no. In fact, some stories have been told of PDQ’s given to those with pre-diabetes before a full medical evaluation has even been done. However, these stories could also be related to obesity or being overweight or could even be related to mental illness.

In some cases, those that have already joined the military only to be diagnosed with diabetes later have been able to stay in the military. Often, they are reassigned, if their occupation puts them at too high of a risk.

 

As others have noted, there are limitations on many preexisting medical conditions that bar entry to the military. I think the concern is if they make an exception for gender dysphoria then that could open the door for other preexisting conditions that require surgery or daily medication.

Another concern is where trans people who haven’t had or don’t want surgery are supposed to sleep and shower - with the men or women? Or is every soldier supposed to get their own private room and shower now? Or do we desegregate all sleeping and shower areas for men and women now?

 

You’re aware there are hundreds of jobs in the military that aren’t door-kicker, yes? There’s plenty of support roles that are critical to the military and just as important as combat arms.

 

The military absolutely covers elective procedures.

 

No. They don't. A Dr needs to first deem them medically necessary. It may be semantics but I'd say if the surgery is medically necessary it's not elective.

 

Had a friend in the Army get LASIK eye surgery done while in the service. Government covered 100% of the cost. LASIK eye surgery is considered an elective surgery and given that he served in a non-combat role there would be no valid argument that he couldn’t serve adequately with glasses. The military absolutely does cover elective surgeries.

 

https://www.military.com/spouse/mil...o-i-get-my-free-military-plastic-surgery.html

"Tricare's rules for plastic surgery are very cut and dry. They will pay for it if it is deemed "medically necessary." That's it."

 

Biden is the biggest moron in the entire history of this nation! Or whoever is pulling his puppet strings is!!