Biden to speak live on Afghanistan @ 3:45 PM EST

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Will he talk his way out of this fiasco?

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  2. Yes, he will make it all good Papa Biden style

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  3. He'll mess up so bad, it will be on SNL Saturday

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  4. He's not Trump, so who cares?

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  5. He will cry

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I could only listen to 5 minutes of it. I expected a finger pointing speech rather than an apology and that is what we got. I couldn't listen any longer to that fool. I'm now watching some guys in Texas build a truck. Nothing controversial about it at all.
     
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    Well, that gave me a sense of that our president is a turd.

    At least he said "the buck stops with me".

    While doing a bunch of finger-pointing.
     
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    Wait for the RNC talking points to come out and then come back to talk about it. If you speak now, you might end up contradicting them.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If we get out of there and stay out, it’s a massive success. I like that he is bringing in enough troops to get all our people out safely and as many Afghans who want to leave as possible. With the hand he was dealt, his only move was to drag it out another 4-8 years or to get out now. I prefer the latter. Afghanistan has always been ruled by territorial tribal warlords with very little central structure. That’s why it has always been a graveyard for any invading force going back thousands of years. It was an idiot move to go in there and it’s time to get out and let these people fight it out.
     
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    I don't care about that.
     
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    They'll all be dead by tonight.
    He farted around and found out you don't break a deal with the Taliban.
    All this was supposed to be done by May.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think he made his positions clear. Hopefully this will soon be over and Afghanistan can be run by Afghani’s again.
     
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    Then we will have a reason to go to war which I would support. If they kill any of our citizens or military who are leaving we should go in there and wipe out the Taliban. However, I do not think that will happen. You are just hoping that all of our people will be killed tonight so that it will make Biden look bad. Pretty sick.
     
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    I think he made it clear.

    IMO we could have retained several bases there to make sure the locals keep Taliban at bay, but it turns out the locals had already made deals with the Taliban when they heard we were leaving in 2020. It would have been a waste. It will be painful for the locals to fall under Sharia law, but maybe we can't keep punting the ball from one president to the next. Finally someone pulled the trigger. This is not South Korea who appreciates our presence.

    They don't have to kill Americans since they know everyone is leaving anyway.
     
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    I agree. Apparently, the leaders of the Afghan Military who were supplied, trained, fed and paid for 20 years surrendered to and joined the Taliban without firing a shot.
     
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    I'm not sure where you're getting that he's saying that. The taliban has already executed ANA commandos and thousands of citizens in a door to door murder spree. they're not stopping until the choke that place to death, and then they'll continue into other parts. We should have done this incrementally.
     
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    That was just tough-talk by Biden. He will do nothing. No, there will be a lot of killing and raping tonight.
    It's very bad and already underway.
     
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    And by May. Biden wanted to do it his own way and thousands of people will suffer and die unnecessarily because of that.
     
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    It’s always easy to sit up in the cheap seats and play QB on Monday morning. Any way you slice it, once we leave these crazy religious nuts are going to do their thing.
     
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    What the West calls "raping" the Taliban call "marriage."

    Ironically, cultural marxists in the West also call "marriage" - a license to rape.

    Culture marxists prefer females to have unfettered sex with scores of males... not just one.
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    We. Have. Left.
     
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    Yes, just like that. It was arranged, and Taliban was allowed to walk in. This should have been done 15 years ago.

    You mean like gradually reduce from 100 000 to 2500 over 10 yrs and then to zero.....which is what we did.....?
     
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    Never should have been there in the 1st place.
    I'll give Joe that he went along with ending it.
    It would have gone much smoother and a lot less resources and lives lost if he stuck to the deal Trump made.
     
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    If I were an Afghani, I would fight for my own family, my life and my country. We gave these people the guns, the training, the support and the money for 20 years. Then they surrendered to these rag tag bunch without firing a shot.
     
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    That "ragtag bunch" now have armored Humvees, tanks, and cutting-edge US military weaponry.

    I wonder how many drones and motion-sensor machine guns they captured?

    No doubt they got some Stingers.
     
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    yep
     
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    After 9-11, everyone was behind the idea of going there to get rid of Al Qaeda. I know I was.

    Drones? None. Who told you they have cutting edge anything?

    Why would they? US didn't need anti-air weapons since the Taliban didn't have anything that could fly.

    Humvees? Yes. They were for the Afghan forces, who are now Taliban.
     
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    Good. Now it’s on them.
     
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    To do what, exactly?
     
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