Black Culture Pathology, What to do?

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  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remember those three Black kids who beat on a White kid on a School bus and broke his arm requiring a cast ?

    They were sentenced after pleading guilty. Indeterminate Probation ! Stay away from the victim. Ankle bracelet. Drug screens. Community service and Anger management.

    Was that justice?
    Certainly NOT if a parole violation does not land them in jail. Even for a taste.

    Where is Al & Jesse?

    Remember the old, Fat Albert cartoons. They did try instill "goodness". Nothing else like them.


    Moi :oldman:
     
  2. superbadbrutha

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    Can you give us a link for this?

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    The three kids responsible for this savage attack were arrested and charged, correct?

    With that said what do you want Rev. Sharpton and Jackson to do exactly?
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    raising the same kind of hell as when they go after the cash cow of a white killing a black!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Why do they need to raise hell when those responsible are being brought to the Bar of Justice. The reason they raise hell when it is the other way around is because they are NOT brought to the Bar of Justice.
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    really? like when?

    you mean like the Duke rape case where Sharpton and Jesse tried to make a liar into a victim?

    or do you mean like Tawana Bradley?
     
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    Actually kind of like Charles Stewart or Susan Smith. How far should I go back when it comes to injustice against black men. How about the Scottboro Boys. How many years did the Duke Lacrosse players spend in jail again? How many years did the Central Park 5 spend in jail? Didn't Timothy Cole die in prison for a rape he didn't commit. How many black men have spent countless years in prison for a rape they didn't commit?
     
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  7. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Re.: Michelle
    I heard her say it in the first year of her first ladyship.
    When she addressed Black kids some would challenge her about speaking like a White person.

    Re.: Sharpton and Jackson
    I want them to address Black on White racism as vociferously as White on Black racism.
    MLK would.

    We need to end the one way street of national consciousness of race relations.
    It is a two way street. That is why nothing has really, really improved after more then forty years of special, preferential Black Educational Opportunities, Scholarships, Job Opportunities, everything short of a tax break for being Black.
    Race relations have been a failure because it is a One Way Street. Courtesy of suckered Liberals and recipients.

    Repeat
    Black Culture denies Middle Class values. Ref. those kids questioning Michelle.
    Middle Class Values are the common values among all those who have "made it" in America.
    Thus Blacks are crippled from knowing the American middle class experience.
    They shoot themselves in the foot and can't march on.

    What part do you disagree and why, please.


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  8. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    yes because only black people have ever known atrocities or false prison terms, because it has never happened to whites or hispanics or asians or anybody else.

    as a matter of fact, while YOU spend all this time worrying about trying to make sure the next white person who kills a black person goes to jail, hundreds of your own kill each other everyday without the help of whitey.

    all your outrage is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and emotion from the past, something we cant change no matter how much we would like too. well (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about that isnt gonna help and constantly bringing it up does nothing but spark more racial hatred. But then again, thats what Jesse and ol' Al (*)(*)(*)(*)head want to keep their pockets lined with "donations" .

    whats funny to me is, a dead brotha aint nothing to you unless it has to do with a white man that put him in the ground. black kills a black....meh who gives a damn right?
     
  9. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ga-teen-convicted-killing-baby-sentenced-20232355
    Teen Convicted of Killing Baby Gets Life in Prison

    A Georgia teen convicted of fatally shooting a baby in a stroller was sentenced Thursday to spend the rest of his life in prison with no chance of parole.
    The baby was in his stroller and out for a walk with his mother when he was shot between the eyes March 21 in the Georgia coastal city of Brunswick. West, and a younger teenager charged as an accomplice, both testified at trial that Elkins killed the baby after his mother refused to give up her purse.
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    Here is a picture of this fine Trayvon
    http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/demarquise-elkins-georgia1.jpg


    Where is Jesse and Al and Barack and Colin leaders of their "people" ?

    Where is the indignation among Black persons that their bros and sisters are committing such acts.
    Some ethnics might experience a sense of "tribal guilt". Obviously NOT Black America.

    They have to find their solution.
    Obviously solutions by white liberals are ineffective over 4 decades.


    Moi :oldman:
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-did-kobe-bryant-justice-170311381.html

    <edit>
    When asked about the Miami Heat team photo (taken in 2013) wearing hoodies in solidarity with Trayvon Martin, a black teenager who was fatally shot in 2012, Bryant seemed to criticize their quick support of Martin.

    “I won’t react to something just because I’m supposed to, because I’m an African-American. That argument doesn’t make any sense to me. So we want to advance as a society and a culture, but, say, if something happens to an African-American we immediately come to his defense? Yet you want to talk about how far we’ve progressed as a society? Well, we’ve progressed as a society, then don’t jump to somebody’s defense just because they’re African-American. You sit and you listen to the facts just like you would in any other situation, right? So I won’t assert myself.”

    The reaction was swift, and mostly critical.

    Black civil rights activist Najee Ali, director of Project Islamic H.O.P.E., reportedly called for a boycott of Bryant merchandise."



    That's what happened to Kobe for believing; "“I won’t react to something just because I’m supposed to, because I’m an African-American. That argument doesn’t make any sense to me . . ."


    And so goes the Pathology of Black Culture in America.


    Moi :oldman:





    No :flagcanada: :steamed:
     
  11. bobov

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    Pity the poor black man with libertarian or conservative beliefs.
     
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    Excellent reply.
     
  13. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately, it does not address the "Pathology of Black Culture".

    If one of theirs doesn't behave Black Enough, such as the ghetto kid studying hard in school and avoiding gangs,
    or Kobe Bryant refusing to take part in a "Hoodie Picture" - they are ostracized if not killed by Black people.
    True Surfer Joe?
    Not True.
    You tell me Surfer Joe
    and what other group of Americans cling to the lowest common denominator as their goal ?

    Asians, Persians, Arabs, Mexicans, all strive for the "Middle Class dream". What is wrong with Black people?
    After decades of special admissions, special hiring preferences, special - specials, the problem of Black Separation from the rest of America remains, and it is the Black peoples desire to live, "Black".
    The solution for Black America must come from within their culture, external solutions just, do not work.


    View attachment 26274
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    Another one who can't hurt normal people for a long, long time.


    Moi :oldman:




    No :flagcanada:
     
  14. Hoosier8

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    That is no answer at all but instead a ploy to try and shift blame. Almost 50% of gun crime is in the black community and they are only about 13% of the population. There is a problem and that problem has to be addressed by someone. It can't be anyone white because the fallback position on that is what you just displayed.

    Part of the culture is a direct outcome of Federal good intentions to help people. The current laws reward fatherless families which exploded after the advent of "The war on poverty". Fatherless families pose a problem for family continuity.
     
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    LoL, but yet, had Kobe done something that got him arrested, wouldn't you just call him a Trayvon like you did in the earlier post? Evidently the only criteria needed to be called that would be black skin, right?

    Hence the problem with reaching out to the black community with that attitude.....
     
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    Tell me what you think about this story:

    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/2...-questioned-in-3-year-old-death#axzz2xUX1MMUB

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    Actually they already have, just go back and take a look at the Colorado case.
     
  17. After Hours

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    Is that a white on white crime?

    If it is, conservatives don't care. They only care when a white person is killed or harmed by someone who is not white. White on white crime doesn't suit the agenda they are trying to push.

    It's funny because if you listen to the conservatives here, you would think most times white people are killed they are killed by someone black or another minority. Yet when you look at the stats, 86% of the time whites are killed, they are killed by other whites. This applies to other races as well. Most crime is intraracial.
     
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    this post is true. I disagree with some Wns over this.
     
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    It just kills your racist myth that you are 86% more likely to be killed by someone white than you are someone black.

    I guess they don't tell it like that over at Stormfront do they.
     
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    I believe the answer is that each and everyone of us come together and set racism aside and figure that out.

    Not as liberals or conservatives, but as humans.

    Everyone here has enough energy to find statistics as to how much violence occurs. Why not devote more of our time to why?

    I do not think they should have preferential treatment, it leads to too much resentment.

    Do I think that we should feel guilty for the problem, no, at least partially responsible, yes.

    This is not a simple black and white problem. We cannot forever try to make up for the treatment they have suffered, but we cannot either until it's effects finally end, say "get over it".

    This is a complex problem that WE ALL have to work on.

    I don't think that many people really want it to end though. They want someone to feel superior to. They keep repeating the same racial rhetoric over and over. They say "they should just go out and get a job", but they wouldn't want them to take theirs. They say "we owe them", but give them just enough so that they are living in abject poverty and repeat the same mistakes over and over. Not due to laziness, but due to the fact that one cannot live up to their true potential if they are continually under duress.
     
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    How idiotic.

    Your project an attitude onto him, and then chastize him for having it? Here's who has it.

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    Since almost 50% of gun crime is in the black community and they are a minority it only follows reason that there will be a higher percentage of whites killed by blacks than blacks killed by whites. That is not an indication of racism but simply numbers.

    Question for superbadbrutha, since these are the numbers, what can be done to address the issue in the black community? As you can see, if anyone white tries to address it they are labeled racists. More recently the Hispanic community is experiencing similar crime. Most of this crime is a part of gang culture. Many cities try to address this also but with varying success. For instance, in California the three strikes and you are out legislation which ended up pushing gangs into Utah.

    I certainly don't have the answer nor do I claim to understand the causes but I am also not able to address it without being called a racist.
     
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    You mean the attitude based upon his posts in this thread? Noooo, where would I have ever gotten that idea?

    The only person projecting is the one calling people idiots.....
     
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    I don't believe fatherless families are rewarded. They are kept fatherless and poor,because of these so called good intentions.

    Contrary to popular belief, welfare is a punishment, not a reward. It is meant to give just enough to look like they are doing good, but too little to make help them become stronger and more self reliant. It is a flat out sham. People who receive cash assistance get less than $500 a month and have to do so called "work" for it, while corporations get rich from kicking them off.

    That is the problem, people take their preconceived notions of what the truth is and will not listen to anything that does not fit these ideas.

    If fatherless families pose a problem for family continuity, lets think of a way to break the cycle.
     
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    I just want to add that the current government does not "look out" for the poor. They just let people believe that.

    Welfare has not been raised in over 20 years.

    It keeps both sides fighting so they will not look at the truth that these programs are a way to keep people divided. They use our fears and prejudices against us.
     
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