Black NFL Players Arrested Ten Times More Often Than White Players

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  1. Andelusion

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    And the last time one was lynched..... was..... just last..............

    This is why the left lives in a continuous time warp of reality. They can't keep themselves going based on current reality. Instead you have live in the mythology that black people are still being strung up on trees every Thursday, when the reality is....

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    Pretty much the opposite. White on Black crime is the most rare of all crime. Far more so than Black on White crime.

    Welcome to the 21st Century. Would you like to join us? Or was that hole in the sand over there, warm and safe for you?
     
  2. superbadbrutha

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    Is homicide the only thing that is a crime in America. Why didn't you post the chart for crime as a whole? I know why because it would paint a different picture wouldn't it.
     
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    No. Of course not.

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    All violent crime of any kind. Mugging, assault, rape and so on.

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    Robbery.... Car theft...

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    All Juvenile crimes. Vandalism, theft, shop lifting and everything else.

    The reason we (society in general), tend to focus on murder, is simply because people are not nearly as bent about other kinds of theft or vandalism. I personally would be, for sure. Someone scratches my car, and I personally would have no problem locking them up for 10 years.

    But society as a whole makes tons of excuses for criminal behavior until you reach rape and murder.

    If you want to know why a white people tend to have a negative attitude toward black people, it's usually not because a black guy stole their bicycle. It's normally because a black guy murdered a friend, or raped someone. That's why I posted homicide first. Not because the numbers are any different for any other type of crime.

    If Black criminals would restrict themselves to only burglary and theft, and stop all the violent crimes, that alone would drastically reduce hatred.
     
  4. superbadbrutha

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    Again post a chart that shows crime as a whole, not just violent crime. Also provide the links where you are getting this data from.
     
  5. Unifier

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    And yet amazingly black conservatives never have these experiences. Why could that be?

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    So are you telling us that conservative black folks have never experienced racism. Are you serious?
     
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    I just did. Robbery is non-violent. Car theft is non-violent. All Juvenile crimes.... means.... all Juvenile crimes. All means all. As in all. Which includes.... ALL.

    As for my references, all of my data comes from the DOJ.
    https://www.ncjrs.gov/html/ojjdp/jjbul2002_10_1/page3.html
    The first graph was from the "serious violent victimization rates by race, 1981-2005" published by the BJS in 2006.

    You can look up the statistics yourself. I've done my part. I've provided links to exactly what I information I used to make my case. The information is there.

    Now, you either put up... or shut up. Those are your choices. You have provided nothing. You have eluded to me being deceptive. You have suggest that my sources were not accurate. You have dismissive.

    But the fact is, then entire time you yourselves have provided nothing. Not one even attempt at making a case. So, put up or shut up, dude. The ball is in your court. Either make a case, or accept the fact that I'm right.
     
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    That seems to be the consensus that they express. And it's not like you would know any different since you're not conservative.
     
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    did profiling make them do criminal acts or does them doing criminals acts make them prone to profiling
    there is more whites in poverty then blacks so you cant use that as an excuse
    When you want to catch a fish you go where the fish are when you want to catch a criminal you go where they are
     
  10. superbadbrutha

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    Or it could be they are like the House Negro and they think the racism agaisnt them is a good thing.

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    If everything was equal I would agree with you, but come on we know when it comes to crime, police and the Justice System nothing is equal, is it?
     
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    Or that could be the black liberals instead, couldn't it? You know, the people who consistently vote for the same party that used to wear hoods and hang their ancestors. The same party that took fathers out of your homes by introducing the sexual revolution, the drug culture, and the welfare state. I always hear black liberals complain about how drugs have destroyed their community, but they never stop to consider who brought us drug culture in the first place. Was it conservatives or liberals?
     
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    Ask a black liberal and let me know.

    Oh it was Repubs in their with them the ones down south anyway. Yep and once that party started doing things like signing Civil Rights Bills and such what did those hood wearers do? Joined the Repub Party and took it over.

    Both and that is why I say, "Neither party is mine, not the Jackass or the Elephant."
     
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    Please learn your history. Those same Democrats that "started doing things like signing Civil Rights Bills" did not start doing so until after it became politically expedient. The same LBJ that signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was the same LBJ that gutted Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower's Civil Rights act of 1957. He didn't care about black people. He only cared about pleasing his constituents. Who didn't want black people to have equal rights. If he had been concerned with doing the right thing, he would have taken a stand in support of Eisenhower's bill and risked pissing off his own party. But he didn't.

    Oh yeah, and do you know who else voted against Eisenhower's Civil Rights Act of 1957? One Mr. John F. Kennedy. Oops!

    These people have raped you since day one, and they've still got you just as enslaved as they ever did. The only difference is their shackles used to be physical chains. Now they're mental chains.



    1) No, it wasn't both. It was exclusively the left. Show me where conservatives have ever pushed drug culture. You don't even believe this. You're just trying not to look wrong here.

    2) Actions speak louder than words. Who did you vote for in the last five elections? I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.
     
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    Is that what he said? So are you telling us that every black man that says he hasn't experienced racism, is a liar? Are you serious?
     
  15. superbadbrutha

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    I agree and neither did his Republican counter-parts.

    As do all politicians.

    Neither did their Republican counter-parts.

    True.

    True.

    True and the same holds true for those black folks who think conservative republicans are the answer.



    If that is the case why hasn't the flow of drugs slowed down when a Republican was in office.

    Which would prove what exactly? I could post anything and so could you, so it really makes no sense to do so.
     
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    Lets see:

    I missed where I put the word "every" in my statement.
     
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    Perfect lol. :clapping: I totally missed that he made that statement at the top. I thought the prior post was referring to that specific person in the article.

    My mistake.

    As for all conservative blacks... I have no idea.

    I would image that some claim they are. However, as I said before, my personal experience is that many are looking for offense.

    I've been pulled over by police, and let go. It never occurred to me that the cop was being racist, when they were looking for a white guy in a similar car, and I wasn't him. Yet I know others that the same thing happened, and "oh they are all racist pigs!"... I doubt it.

    In fact, I remember when Alan Keys was prevented from going to the Presidential debates, and they refused to admit him, and he instantly went into a racist rant. But of course they also denied several other white candidates from going (in fact many), and what's the explanation then? They were racists against whites as well?
     
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    Thats the key "let go". How many black men have we seen pulled over in a routine traffic stop and are harrassed and some even end up dead. You don't have to take my word for it. Its been recorded on the officer's dash cam for all to see.

    Well you just answered your own question, isn't Alan Keyes a Republican Conservative? Guess it throws that theory of black conservatives not claiming racism out the window doesn't it.
     
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    No, you failed at logic. If they prevent white conservatives from going to debates, how is it racism?

    Again, my point was that people are looking for offense. It's not racism.

    As for the dash cam, sure name the event? Where's the video?

    My experiences is that the vast majority of the time, the person does something that gets them in trouble, and then claims it was police brutality.
     
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    Did anyone establish whether they commit ten times as many crimes?
     
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    I have no idea who said 'ten times', but it sure wasn't me. I only pointed out what the DOJ statistical figures show, which is that black people do in fact do most of the criminal acts in our country. Just a fact.

    It's not a problem with Race though, but it is a problem with Culture. There is a culture of entitlement, of being owed, and that crime isn't wrong. The reason why this culture exists, is because of leftists pushing that crime isn't wrong, that people are owed something, and that everyone is entitled.

    We need to completely destroy this culture. That's what's holding back people in our society.
     
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    Actually the DOJ proves that whites commit the most crimes in this country and are incarcerated far less than there black and hispanic folks.

    Really post 3 examples of this that shows the majority of black folks in America believe this.

    Really give us 3 examples of where someone claims it isn't wrong to commit crime.

    Actually it is the same racist that were ship captains, slavemaster, Jim Crow, etc.
     
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    I don't know about that, but what I do know is that 'number of crimes' verse 'incarceration' is irrelevant. If we treated all crimes completely equal, then you would have a point. If we treated breaking someones side view mirror on their car, as the same a raping and murdering, and incarcerated all equally, then yes there's a problem.

    The issue is, we don't treat all crimes the same, because they are not the same. Even technical similar crimes are not treated the same. There's a huge difference between a 18 year old having sex with a 16 year old that wants it, and a girl that goes on a date, and has something slipped into her glass and ends up in bed. And there's a difference between that, and guy that breaks into a home, and forces a woman he's never met before into bed. You might say that all are rape, but all are not the same.

    So some raw number of crimes doesn't mean anything to incarceration rates, because what matters is the seriousness of the crime. As I pointed out before. The facts are, most of the serious crimes are committed by blacks more than whites. You really need to just accept the truth, instead of trying to blame shift. It makes you and your arguments look very petty, and childish. You might as well be saying "Well they do it too!". You are never going to convince anyone with that level of argument.

    Example 1. A supporter of race based affirmative action....
    http://dailyprincetonian.com/opinion/2013/12/the-reasoning-behind-affirmative-action/
    That is a perfect example of "They are 'owed'.

    Example 2. Ironically your own post, repeating the same exact reasons
    If you have to go back to the late 1800s to justify anything, it's another way of saying "I'm owed". Slave trade was abolished in 1808. The last of the slave ships ended in 1858. And of course slavery was abolished, 1865. So you have to go back 150 years to justify 'I'm owed' today? No black man alive was harmed by anything over 150 years ago. It's just another "I'm owed" excuse. And Jim Crow was hardly the suffering that slavery, and the slave trade was, yet even then, those law have been gone for 55 years. Few even know what they refer to anymore. It's just another excuse, just another way to say "I'm owed".

    Example 3. When I was working as a high school student, at Wendy's we had a lady come in who told us straight up, that she was only going to work until she could get back on welfare, and even pointed out the day. Sure enough, on the day she qualified for welfare again, she quit. She was owed. She 'deserved' her welfare check. It was my duty as a working citizen of the country to fund her sitting on her butt.

    Oh good night.... Illegal immigrants is... not illegal. Illegal drugs are not illegal.
    http://youtu.be/gGuwvS62syM
    Just read the comments supporting the criminals on videos like this.
     
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    lol, Allen West just says whatever he thinks will make more white people vote for him.
     
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    lol, Obama just says whatever he thinks will make more white people vote for him.
     

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