Blacks Finally Waking Up

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  1. Brewskier

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    You could do all of these things and minorities are still going to vote along ethnic lines. They have an in group preference. Whites need to reembrace their in group preference. It’s natural.
     
  2. Robert

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    A we have never done any of that.

    So WHY?

    Why is that on your mind?

    Blacks prefer living in Democrats states. So you may have done that in your states, but not in our states.
     
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    Back to Birthers I see. Democrats created the Birther issue. No serious republican has ran using that issue. Even Trump dropped it. But you Democrats that supported Hillary came up with the birther idea. To the point your side took Obama to court over the issue.
     
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    Your side has done all of it, and some of your leaders have proudly admitted they did it specifically to suppress the Democratic vote.

    You've supported policies to put more minorities in prison, and then fought against allowing ex-felons to vote.

    You've gerrymandered at a level never seen before.

    You've advocated rigging the census to not count non-citizens, in violation of the Constitution.

    You've consistently cut down on early voting hours.

    You've magically "purged" voter lists so that the purgees are mostly Democrats.

    And you've worked to make it hard for college students to vote, requiring that they get absentee ballots to vote at their parents' address, instead of voting at the address where they actually live.

    That's how you keep your tyranny-of-the-minority thing going.
     
  6. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    The lady in the video?
     
  7. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Lady in the video upset you, too, huh? How dare a black person support Trump after all the Democrats have done for them! Its blasphemy, thats what it is!
     
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    If you're this desperate to deflect, so much so that you'd fling out one of your precious race cards, I know I'm on the right track.

    You're going to run out of race cards eventually. Then what will you do?
     
  10. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Race cards? Is that all black people are to you? Good thing the president doesnt discount their intelligence. Sheeple are so 2008-2016.

    Trump signs order boosting support to historically black US colleges

    US President Donald Trump will sign a measure on Tuesday aimed at boosting government support for the nation's historically black colleges, a senior White House official said.

    Trump, a Republican, has pledged to improve the lives of black Americans, who voted overwhelmingly in favor of his Democratic opponent in the 2016 presidential election.

    blacks w Trump.jpg

    https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/201...rt-to-historically-black-us-colleges_c1515595
     
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    There you go with the knee jerk racist attack.

    One trick pony.

    Where do you think millions of illegal aliens are getting jobs?
     
  12. Robert

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    But I never said it was Hillary that started this.

    I have many times informed Democrats who did it. It was Philip Berg. A very loyal Democrat who campaigned hard for Hillary Clinton. And Berg took Obama to court.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/birt...tter-because-obama-is-an-illegal-alien-2011-4

    Grace Wyler

    Apr. 27, 2011, 10:04 AM
    [​IMG]Courtesy of ObamaCrimes.com
    Phil Berg, the attorney who filed the first birther lawsuits, said today that the release of President Barack Obama's birth certificate does not resolve the issue of his presidential eligibility.

    Obama may have been born in Hawaii, Berg says, but he renounced his American citizenship when he was adopted by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro while living in Indonesia. Berg claims Obama's Indonesian school records list him as an Islamic Indonesian named Barry Soetoro.

    "I'm not that concerned with the birth certificate," Berg told TBI this morning. "Unless there is evidence that he renounced his Indonesian citizenship, we believe he is an illegal president."
     
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    I understand the Democrats rhetoric. I was one of you for eons. I know the drill.

    You made tons of claims. Do you intend to prove them?

    Blacks tend to live among Democrats. You are certainly very confused. And I know why. Democrats lie.
     
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    The DNC (or their echo chamber media buddies) aren't worried about losing black support to Donald Trump. Of course, they weren't worried about Hillary losing either, so....

    blacks-for-trump.jpg
     
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    Berg did not invent birtherism. You made that up. Birtherism was around before Berg seized on it. It was invented by Republicans at the Free Republic forum. The fact that Berg filed the first conspiracy theory lawsuit does not make him the inventor of birtherism.

    You're also flipflopping. First you said "Democrats" (plural) invented birtherism. Now you're down to a single Democrat.

    I imagine you acted badly as a Democrat as well, and then found a more natural home with the Republicans. After all, Democrats don't approve of dishonesty.

    That depends. Is it a waste of my time?

    That is, if I prove even one claim, will you admit that the Republicans are immorally suppressing the minority vote? Do you possess such integrity? I'm trying to pin you down here ahead of time, so that you'll find it harder to weasel later.

    You know your birther story is false, but you keep peddling it. What does that say about your honesty?
     
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    "Even Trump dropped it". Are you serious? Trump used the birthers issue to gain traction for his Presidential run. He only half heartedly admitted Obama was born in Hawaii after he won the GOP nomination.:wtf:
     
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    Berg v. Obama[edit]
    On August 21, 2008, Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg, a Democrat[11] and former deputy state attorney general, filed a complaint alleging that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and was therefore a citizen of Kenya or possibly Indonesia, where he lived as a child.[12][13][14] He alleged that the "Certification of Live Birth" on Obama's website is a forgery.[15] U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick dismissed the complaint in October 2008, finding that Berg lacked standing to bring the case and that his attempts to gain standing to pursue his claim were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."[11][16]

    Bypassing the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, Berg filed a petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment in the United States Supreme Court. On December 10, 2008, the Supreme Court denied Berg's request for an injunction against the seating of the Electoral College, scheduled for December 15.[17] On December 15, 2008, the petitioner refiled the application for injunction.[18] Two days later, Berg's appeal was denied without comment by Supreme Court JusticeAnthony Kennedy.[14] Berg's previously denied request for an injunction was refiled with Justice Antonin Scalia on December 18, 2008.[18] On January 12, the Supreme Court denied the petition for certiorari. The application for stay addressed to Justice Scalia and referred to the Court was also summarily denied on January 21, 2009.[18]

    On November 12, 2009, the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit affirmed the district court's ruling that Berg lacked standing.[19]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation#Berg_v._Obama

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_J._Berg

    You have yet to prove republicans took this to court so don't judge me.

    Berg started the Birther issue.
     
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    How can a child renounce their citizenship? Did his Mom renounce her citizenship?
     
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    Democrats started the Birther issue in the spring of 2008. Berg the lawyer took Obama to court.

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    The paper trail

    The allegation about Obama’s birthplace tracks back to the bruising 2008 Democratic primary between Obama and Clinton. According to a Telegraph article, as early as April 2008, a Clinton supporter passed around an email that questioned where Obama was born.

    "Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy," it said. "She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth."

    The cry that Obama was not a legitimate candidate grew much louder in June 2008.

    On June 7, 2008, Clinton conceded and called for all Democrats to rally behind Obama. Some in her party did not care to listen. By June 10, 2008, opponents to Obama were posting on a website called Pumaparty.com. PUMA stood for Party Unity My Ass. The website encouraged frustrated Clinton supporters to back the Republican nominee.

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    John Avlon, editor-in-chief of the Daily Beast, explored the roots of the birther movement in his book Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America. Avlon described a posting on the PUMA website with the heading "Obama May Be Illegal to Be Elected President!" He wrote that a Clinton volunteer in Texas, Linda Starr, played a key role in spreading the rumor.

    Starr connected with Pennsylvania attorney Philip Berg in August and Berg followed up by suing in federal court to block Obama’s nomination. The suit was thrown out repeatedly on the grounds that Berg lacked standing and the U.S. Supreme Court ultimately refused to hear his appeal.
     
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    Trump never used the birther issue to campaign for president.

    He around 2011 decided Obama is a US citizen.

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/index.html

    (CNN)Donald Trump's birther days are finally over.

    "President Barack Obama was born in the United States," Trump said brusquely at the end of a campaign event in his new Washington hotel. "Period."
    About 12 hours earlier, senior adviser Jason Miller said in a statement Trump had compelled Obama to release his birth certificate in 2011 to dispel questions about the fact he was born in Hawaii in 1961.


    "Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States," the campaign conceded, a gesture meant to end questions -- which have bubbled up again in the past weeks -- surrounding Republican nominee's role in advancing a fiction meant to delegitimize the first African-American commander in chief."
     
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    Berg a lifelong Democrat activist had a lot of questions and took Obama to court.
     
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    Yes in 2011 Trump dropped it.
     
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    https://www.npr.org/2018/01/08/5765...loyment-rates-for-african-americans-hispanics

    However, that's not all Trump is doing in this tweet. He is implying that he caused these low African-American and Hispanic unemployment rates.

    And a big problem with that claim is that those rates had been falling for long before Trump took office, and their declines don't appear to have picked up speed. This implies that there's nothing specific that Trump did to change this rate.

    Indeed, both of these rates have been falling relatively steadily since around 2010, early in President Obama's tenure in the White House.

    You talk to hear yourself huh?
     
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    Why is so hard for you to grasp the simple concept that birtherism did not begin with Berg's court case? Nobody argues that Berg didn't file a conspiracy-theory court case, or that he wasn't a Democrat, so those points aren't relevant. We're pointing out Berg didn't invent birtherism.
     
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    I offered proof that Berg took it to court and sued Obama. I also posted data showing that he got his idea from a woman in TX. But republicans are not the father of the Birther movement. Which is the story you tried to sell to us.
     
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