Blatant discrimination:’ Christian B&B owner fined $80K for refusing gay ‘wedding’ co

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. I avoid businesses who represent things I don't care for, or who 'behave badly'.
     
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    This is an example of what the nouveau Tea Party and now the Trumpeizdas mean when they say take back our country or make American great again.

    These Dildo Heads are trying to hide behind their own private interpretation of what the Bible says and what some men wrote in to the Bible and attributed the words to God. Does anyone who is not a complete dumb ass POS really believethat someone who wears clothe of mixed fibers needs to be put to the sword ? Hey there is a lot of great stuff in the Bible such as the Bible says not to boink chickens, sheep or your sister !! GOOD CALL!!

    But is making money off of a couple gay heads who think that they are really getting married an affront to your religion? I don't know!!! is same sex "marriage" a ridiculous stupid concept and practice? Yes it is. Here is the way I see it! If two men want to boink each other but they do it in private and they are both adults WGAS!!! For the Pervert who likes to boink his sheep well do it in your barn and do not let any kids see you boinking your sheep. In other words keep your perversion private.
     
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    sound the clarions!
     
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    No one cares what you call it. Its open fascism against Christians. A sexual preference that can be announced at a press conference and taken back just as easily has no right to force a religion to accept it in business.

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    Why do you openly support facism against people of faith?
     
  5. crank

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    Marriage is legal, and in every other legal sense people (regardless of sexuality) are equal. IOW, LG people already have 100% equality under law.

    I'm sorry for your hurt feelings if half the country isn't down with it, but really, it's your choice to be twisted about that. There isn't a moral compunction for them to like it, much less a legal compunction. Any more than there is a compunction for you to like religion, if you're an atheist.
     
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    we're moving forward, not backwards.
     
  7. crank

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    Actually it's Progs who are labouring under the illusion that it's still the 1950's. Nick is probably more progressive than you.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is the overreach of religion that has to stop. It’s a business, not a church. Using ones business to push religious beliefs is wrong once it comes to saying “We don’t serve your kind here!” It is illegal to do it to Christians, and therefore not right for them to enjoy legal protection for doing it to others.

    Why don’t the Christian business owners decorate in a manner that may deter homosexual prospects? Why not put up bible verses referencing homosexuality? How they decorate is their business.

    News flash! Gay people are getting married now.

    To the OP, you are just as evil in the eyes of Christians. Have you ever had a BJ? If so, you have committed sodomy. Have you had sex outside of wedlock? You are wrong and unnatural.
     
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    He's not making them feel worse, he's making them feel EQUAL. Are you suggesting that they should be treated as more than equal?
     
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    Sounds scary. Well, you just keep right on believing that and keep discriminating against gays and in return, they'll keep crying all the way to the bank.
     
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    No, and I already conceded that I should have put a modifier on that statement. It was an unfair generalization that I corrected during the course of my discussion with Nick. I meant, and should have typed, "...the true nature of some American Christians."

    Sorry.
     
  12. ellesdee

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    Oh no, don't do that. Be careful with the lifestyle choice argument because religion isn't anything more than a lifestyle choice, either. If you want to start claiming lifestyle choices shouldn't deserve any kind of protection from discrimination, people are going to start arguing the same about religion.
     
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    "Announced at a press conference and then taken back just as easily"....kinda sounds like religion
     
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    Another alternate reality hear from.
     
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    I don't know, man, but over the years, I've come to the conclusion that some of these guys fighting against LGBT rights really haven't.
     
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    The very first law that the US congress pass deal with using US flag ships in foreign trade with other nations.

    So when was there an ideal free market?
     
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    Hopefully all these cases start spelling the end of "get out of things I don't like" 1st amendment religious appeals.

    Why should other people have to suffer just because some folks choose to live a religious lifestyle? Shouldn't those religious folks keep their lifestyle choices to themselves?
     
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    I guess the moral of the story, and every other story you post is, Christians shouldn't own businesses that deal with the public. Since they continue to break the laws of their business agreement(license).

    Thanks for sharing this conclusion.
     
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    I think your viewpoint of PC culture. And it's showing the hateful outcome for some. Enraged 24/7 it seems.
     
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    Do you hate laws? You do realize laws discriminate.

    That's what makes your discrimination charge so laughable.

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    Yes but religion unlike sexual preference is actually mentioned in the Constitution. Wow, you walked right into that one.

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    Too bad religion is the only one actually mentioned as a protected right in the Constitution. I'm amazed how easily that trap worked.
     
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    Walked right into what? Technically speaking, the Constitution only protects religions from discrimination by the government. It was never designed to protect religions from other citizens. Please tell me that you understand, at least, that much about the Constitution.

    In fact, before the Civil Rights Acts, there had been many examples of discrimination against religions by everyday citizens, and it was perfectly legal. Catholics, for example, had to deal with a lot of abusive discrimination when they first started arriving in America.

    I mean, if religion were already a class protected from discrimination by US citizens, why did it need to be included in the Civil Rights Acts? The constitutional precedence angle is a flawed argument, at best. Personally, I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket if people really wanted to press the issue that religion is nothing but a lifestyle choice.
     
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    While ones sexual preference isn't mentioned. Equality for all is. Hmmmm.
     
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    You assume too much. You think I would eat there, or support a business that would only cater to white. But just the opposite is true.

    Unlike a leftist, I am not afraid to let people make their own business decisions. I would not give my money to a business with that sign or policy, but I would not want the government to force it to shut down either.

    In fact, a smart businessman would open p just down the street, with a sign proclaiming that all are welcome......
     
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    ABSOLUTELY religion is a choice. That is why nobody should be forced to serve a religious event. Thanks for seeing things clearly

    One should not be forced by govt to serve a religious event nor should they be forced to serve a gay-lifestyle event.
     
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    The other option is to set their business up as a non-profit. They can still pay themselves a salary. Actual churches can discriminate against whomever they wish.
     

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