BLM Admits Bundy Ranch a problem for China Solar

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Battle3, Apr 18, 2014.

  1. Goodoledays

    Goodoledays New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2011
    Messages:
    6,598
    Likes Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    0
    :wink:Yep....our gov't does it on a daily basis. Either over the phone or over the internet. So watch out.
     
  2. EggKiller

    EggKiller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2012
    Messages:
    6,650
    Likes Received:
    483
    Trophy Points:
    83

    If the Chinese solar link did not exist why did the BLM erase that page from their website?

    I'd rather support a senile old fool with integrity than Reid's dynasty of influence peddling.
    Read my shoplifter statement again. I believe your missing something. Not sure how but it seems you've pulled it off.
     
  3. krunkskimo

    krunkskimo New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    4,219
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So a spot is set to offset the impact of a solar farm and he's letting his cattle graze there when they shouldnt? That doesnt cut into the solar farms business, it cuts into the enviroments business. The solar farm can run as normal whether bundy grazes that area or not. There are alot of alloted grazing areas in the area, this just shows bundy isnt complying with the Taylor grazing act and is letting his cows graze anywhere he feels like.
     
  4. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    [video=youtube;aCbfMkh940Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q[/video]
     
    EggKiller and (deleted member) like this.
  5. AKR

    AKR New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2008
    Messages:
    1,940
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I figured it out. I was entering an extra part on the URL.
     
  6. Radio Refugee

    Radio Refugee New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2008
    Messages:
    24,800
    Likes Received:
    318
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Here's why you don't see what I see.

    I shun TV. I get zero. I can't be emotionally dicked with by a camera crew and some ominous verbiage. I heard him interviewed three times by friendly folks. He's got NO CASE.

    Bundy is a nut. He's represented HIMSELF in federal suits BECAUSE NO SANE LAWYER WOULD DO IT FOR HIM.

    OK, that's JUST Bundy.

    BLM: Scum. Big Fed: Big Scum.

    But BLM's scumbaggery doesn't elevate a nut.
     
  7. Radio Refugee

    Radio Refugee New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2008
    Messages:
    24,800
    Likes Received:
    318
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Did I for one second defend any agent/agency of Big Fed? They are scum.
     
  8. Joker

    Joker Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2005
    Messages:
    12,215
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Actually, that quote is in reference to other groups, not the BLM, who are concerned that they can't use Gold Butte as a wildlife mitigation area for animals displaced by already existing solar farms.

    http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2014...issing-blm-page-connecting-to-harry-reid-not/

    - - - Updated - - -

    Your article is from 2012, which is a bit outdated for this story, considering that the Chinese company in question abandoned the plan to build the solar farm back in June 2013.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...right-now-about-the-nevada-rancher-situation/
     
  9. jackdog

    jackdog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Messages:
    19,691
    Likes Received:
    384
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Think Harry Reid has managed to call a whole lot of attention to his ethics with this one. Holder will ignore it of course but there maybe some hungry investigative reporter will try and get to the bottom of all of his interest in the Bundy Ranch
     
  10. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    16,248
    Likes Received:
    3,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If you have lived in a rural area, you would know that livestock gets out of pastures even if fenced.

    Thats not the point.

    The point is that the BLM and Reid's defenders have claimed there is no link to the solar project in any way.

    That was clearly a lie. The BLM included the solar project explicitely in their justification (overreaction) to sending an army to deal with Bundy.

    And if you read this BLM document “Regional Mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar energy Zone: Technical Note 444" found here:
    http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf

    you will see that the Chinese solar power project is the reason for the displacement of so many people from the same region Bundy lives. The document focuses on the Gold Butte area where Bundy lives.

    The solar plant is located elsewhere, but the damage to the local ecology by the solar plant must be mitigated with other land (like carbon credits, you can do damage in one place if you do restoration somewhere else). The mitigation area is Gold Butte.

    So if the Chinese solar plant can't show they have mitigated their damage to the environment, then money doesn't change hands.

    And guess what? That money goes into BLM's coffers.
     
  11. Piscivorous

    Piscivorous New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2009
    Messages:
    11,854
    Likes Received:
    232
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So the government and everyone on an entitlement program is a thief.

    Thanks for clearing THAT up.
     
  12. Piscivorous

    Piscivorous New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2009
    Messages:
    11,854
    Likes Received:
    232
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Sure we do. This crap is happening all around us. One politician after another is wheeling and dealing our land, money and freedom away for the highest dollar and it goes unreported.

    This scofflaw has single-handedly exposed Reid and his son.

    Maybe, just maybe, this gets the ball rolling.

    No doubt Bundy is a scofflaw. Then again, so were our Founding Fathers in the eyes of our pre-Revoluton government.
     
  13. katzgar

    katzgar Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2013
    Messages:
    9,361
    Likes Received:
    1,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    just a lot of meandering and tangent chasing. The guy is still a thief.
     
  14. Joker

    Joker Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2005
    Messages:
    12,215
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Really? Where in that quote does it say anything about ENN and its solar farm project? You can ignore my counterpoints if you like, but I will just keep coming back to rub them in your face.

    Do you even know where the Dry Lake Energy Zone is? It's on the opposite side of Lake Mead from Gold Butte. Do you understand what wildlife mitigation means? It's about finding safe habitats for endangered animals; it has nothing to do with building a new solar plant. It's about creating an area in Nevada that is safe for animals that have been displaced by existing energy farms.
     
  15. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    16,248
    Likes Received:
    3,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, you are so intent on defending the indefensible that you didn't even read your own post.

    Gold Butte is the mitigation area for the wildlife displaced by the Chinese solar plant.
     
  16. Joker

    Joker Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2005
    Messages:
    12,215
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I was favoring Bundy until I looked closely at the details this afternoon. Two decades the BLM peacefully tried to work this out. How long would you wait to try to remove someone camped out on front lawn before you went out, pulled down his tent, and punched him in the face? I'm betting it'd be a lot less than 2 decades.
     
  17. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,489
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And of course there are those here defending the bigger thief. Reid. Trample the little guy for the benefit of the powerful. Nice.
     
  18. Joker

    Joker Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2005
    Messages:
    12,215
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That's why your beloved quote mentions nothing about China or even ENN, right?

    It's a proposed mitigation area for the Dry Lake Energy Zone, where solar farms already exist. The ENN abandoned it's project almost a year ago.
     
  19. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    16,248
    Likes Received:
    3,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Get with the program, this is a forum. Each post is not an encyclopedia of the subject. Participants are expected to be able to keep up with the thread and the subject. If you can't keep up, don't comment.
     
  20. Joker

    Joker Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2005
    Messages:
    12,215
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Oh, now I understand why you never responded to my first post here.
     
  21. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    16,248
    Likes Received:
    3,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You mean your post in which you agreed with everything I claimed? Perhaps you should go read the thread again, cogitate a moment, and then you might realize you actually agree with me.
     
  22. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Messages:
    22,146
    Likes Received:
    408
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't care if he was delinquent on his fees for five decades! There are better ways of settling this matter than invading Bundy's ranch with an illegal paramilitary army! I don't know how many ways I can say it.
    Unless you killed someone NO ONE deserves to have guns in their face and copters circling their property.

    When the leftist turds that want their pound of flesh from Cliven Bundy for breaking the law start to show the same zeal and energy when it comes to stopping the millions of illegal aliens who have absolutely no regards for our laws (and cost the taxpayers billions annually) then I'll admit they have a point... instead of merely having the ability to hate on command.
     
  23. Joker

    Joker Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2005
    Messages:
    12,215
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Well, that's the kind of thing that happens when you say you'll do anything to protect your illegal cattle range, organize an army of armed protesters to resist the feds, and go around kicking police dogs.

    Well, if you're making threats of violence, I'd say you deserve a gun in your face.

    It's funny. I've never actually heard anyone outside of politics who supported amnesty for illegal immigrants, regardless of their political views. It seems to me to be the viewpoint of nobody but corrupt politicians.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh cool, so you've come to senses and seen that ENN abandoned its solar energy farm last June and the mitigation area has nothing to do with any new solar farms but has been proposed for already existing energy farms in the Dry Lake Energy zone, none of which are owned by Chinese companies. You could've just said that.

    That's great, though. Glad we could work this out without any helicopters or an armed standoff.
     
  24. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    16,248
    Likes Received:
    3,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, I see you are trying to split hairs. I'll even give you the pass on China, but thats irrelevent. Reid is a crook, he wants the Gold Butte area free of people so he can use it as a mitigation area for his land scams (solar and other), and he is using the BLM as his errand boy to force Bundy out. Remember, "abandoned" today, reinstated tomorrow. Its all a shell game for types like Reid.

    But I dont mind keeping this back and forth going, I think I get points for every post in this thread.
     
  25. Radio Refugee

    Radio Refugee New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2008
    Messages:
    24,800
    Likes Received:
    318
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is a bogus analogy. Bundy is an entitled old fool. I see no noble purpose.
     

Share This Page