Blue State Blues: The Case for Pardoning Barack Obama

Dream on yourself.

 

There is prima facie evidence -- some of it self admitted -- that there was serious and pervasive action by some government agents inside the FBI, DOJ, CIA, and possibly the NSA to insure Trump did not get elected, or he he did, to unseat him. By any definition of the word that is a conspiracy. (The NSA's involvement is sketchy. Its Director did not like what he was seeing and warned Trump of some of the covert activities.)

 

What are these specific illegal stunts that Obama is guilty of conducting? And why hasn’t he been arrested for these illegal stunts that he is guilty of?

 

It’s hilarious when Obama’s former goons testified behind closed doors, and under oath that they seen no evidence of trump working with the Russians, then they went on garbage pits like CNN, and methNBC and lied to their fellow Americans about there being evidence of collusion.
You, and your fellow reggresives allowed yourselves to be conned. See, people with fragile minds invent conspiracies, or at least don’t question them, because they can’t deal with certain aspects of reality. For your part, that certain aspect is Trump beating Shillary Clinton, so you needed a conspiracy to help make sense of the world.

 

What a steaming load of crap!

If Trump is looking to pardon someone he needs to start with Trump.

 

There is much circumstantial evidence that president Obama participated in serious wrong doing. However I don't think or know that any of his actions would be criminal. In any case developing a criminal charge against Obama would be extremely difficult, require tremendous resources and time and be, with very high probability, unsuccessful, IMO.

This does not eliminate the wild idea of a pardon, though, nor even the crazier idea of impeachment.

 

What exactly would he be pardoned or impeached for?

 

Well common sense doesn't lead one to be a "liberal " nor does even the most modest look at human history.

But then the closest thing in politics right now to being an actual liberal is Donald Trump. Modern Democrats are not liberals at all.

 

Not brainwashed, blind.

 

You can't show the willfully blind anything.

 

Yes the perennial victim should be the bigger man and pardon the evil Obama who nearly destroyed america. Who knew brietbart was trying to compete with the onion?

 

No need. Even Barr seems to see nothing there at this point.

 

I asked for proof. Not theory.

Saavy?

 

He could be pardoned for any future criminal charges that might stem from his presidency as Nixon was. He could be impeached for any wrong doing; the Democrats just lowered the bar for impeachment all the way to the ground claiming a president can be impeached for doing anything the House doesn't like. His impeachment -- extremely unlikely by the way: odds so small they can hardly be counted -- would not of course remove him from office but would prohibit him from holding any other high level government office.

 

I don't particularly care what you asked for. Proof of a crime is determined only in a court of law. If you see A shoot B you cannot prove that A shoot B until maybe you go to court. But with reasonable suspicion and evidence you can certainly have A arrested, charged, indicted and prosecuted, all without proof. That doesn't mean that A didn't do it.

 

I support a full unbiased and comprehensive examination of the Obama Administration with individuals that broke major laws being incarcerated and individuals that broke minor laws or did not act within the best interest of America being released to the public.

I will support the same against the trump administration.

The stunt of issuing a blanket pardon for Obama while not even being able to show what he actually did will be nothing but red meat for the base to later be mocked as the stunt that it is — so why not?

 

So the criminal charges that don’t exist nor ever will?
How many modern day presidents have gone on to hold high level government positions post presidency?

 

Have you read any of the stuff thus far produced by Grinnell.

 

Well I guess he would have to commit a crime first. We are all still waiting for that to have happened.

 

Yes, and nothing spells 'competence' than standing on a stage at a political rally, as a 2 star general, and advising the crowd that shouting "lock her up" is acceptable behavior. To wit: "there's nothing wrong with that" Gen. Flynn said.

Breitbart, not a reliable source, one of the worst. Mediabiasfactcheck.org's report:

 

You can sure tell it’s an election cycle.
We‘ve got ridiculous oozing out of every nook and cranny.

 

So no proof.

That's all you had to say.

 

Yeah, that would be the plan. Criminal charges against Obama is extremely unlikely. If for nothing else, gathering evidence of his actions would be highly improbable since it certainly would mostly come under executive privilege.

IIRC, none. However, there have been presidents that later held other high public office. If memory serves one sat on the supreme court, and I think one became a senator.

 

Having bias does not make one unreliable. Unreliable media comes from false and fake news reporting.

 

Unless the bias is extreme, then it bleeds into content. But, that is why MBFC has two ratings, 'bias' usually relates to story selection, and 'factual reporting' rating is separate, noting that when bias is extreme, then content usually is biased, as well. Note two ratings:
The bias meter is to the are right, and the factual rating is 'mixed' Overall rating is 'questionable source'