Boeing-777 was shot down by Ukrainians!!!

Yes. Reuters audio-recording made ​​from two pieces of different interviews. One of them was the day before the Boeing accident, another - recently. In the video both interviews given in a more complete version. Check yourself.

 

Ok.
If so, then show me these interview and corresponding parts of them

 

If too lazy to listen. That's it. All in one video.

[video=youtube;VDoGBstgOfc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VDoGBstgOfc[/video]

Reuters audio fragment 11:12 - 11:32. This is interview to Kurginan program "Sut' vremeni" at 22.07. See on video complete version 14:46 - 15:24. Words was taken out of context.
Reuters audio fragment 11:32 - 11:49. This is real Reuters interview at 23.07. See on video complete version 12:09 - 12:49.

Full transcript of the Reuters interview lasted more than an half of hour. And in this interview, quite the opposite: "we did not have any BUK." See on video 14:10 - 14:29. Why Reuters reporter did not publish the full interview?

 

no-no.
Show me the REAL fragment from the REAL Reuter's audio

 

Why are you making stuff up?

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislation_on_languages_in_Ukraine

 

Ok. Show me link to Reuters official site with audio.

 

got any links or sources for these silly accusations?

 

I saw the prime minster of the Peoples Republic of Donetsk say that they are waiting for the international experts to come and investigate but they are purposely taking long and that its ridiculous to expect them to protect a large position in the middle of no mans land, the front line of the warzone, for such an extended period of time without anything going missing. I dont know the exact details, but that sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

 

http://www.rferl.org/media/video/ukraine-rebel-commander-buk-missile/25468569.html
if you'll find fragments which coincide with the audio in interview given ebove then it surely faked by reuters. And I'm seriously doubt about this.

 

It has been repeated so many times and at so many levels that I became quite tired to ask for a proof of it. The proof for it doesn't exist and never existed.
Besides, it doesn't make sense to supply rebels with BUK launchers. For they need to build a radar first. And that is an impossible task at this stage. Without a radar BUK is hardly any better than SAMs that were used before.

 

No-no

I found same sources here http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v27872620f3b and here http://www.svoboda.org/content/article/25468682.html. Listened to all possible sources. They contain pieces of various interviews with Khodakovsky. It's all fake.

From different sources - the distributor of this fake is Radio Svoboda. Reuters official site does not contain any audio interview with Khodakovsky! Stone load off my mind. Reuters had no relevant to this fake.

 

can you show me at least one fragment from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axFfWcL68sA video (This is interview to Kurginan program "Sut' vremeni") which coincide with any fragment on this http://www.rferl.org/media/video/ukraine-rebel-commander-buk-missile/25468569.html audio.

That will be the hell of investigation

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of revelation

 

I do not want. Already heard enough. Reuters has not relevant to this delirious. Radio Liberty can publish whatever they pleases. Nobody from Radio Liberty met with Khodakovsky. Fake based on YouTube videos no any interest to me.

 

Why would an IR missile which is tracking engine exhaust skip across the wing and hit the cockpit rather than the engine? If the cockpit is that (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up then it's more likely the explosion came from the front. That scratch could be anything from missile debris to a piece of plane skidding across. Also being that the SU-25 is a ground attack aircraft I just dont see it nosing up and firing on a plane 10k above it and moving faster than it. Also why would the Ukrainians shoot at a civilian plane coming from the west?

 

not fake, as to me, but I'm lazy to listen to this exactly as you are

 

It is a long story. And so far Ukraine is not yet a fascist state. Ukraine is under civil war and there is a chance that it will become fascist.

It all started once Ukraine was about to declare independence of USSR. The main reason to do that was an attempt to use the resources invested into Ukraine by all of soviet republics and not to share them with the rest. It was then when ukrainians first listened to propaganda that comparing to other soviets they are more civilised and european, so they will live much better alone. Time passed and all the soviet heritage was wasted. Comparing to the economy of Russia Ukraine lost any possibility to be comparable. Which is quite understandable and doesn't mean that russians are better than ukrainians.

Once it became evident the results of reality came into contradiction with the national beliefs and aim of independence (to live better than rest of USSR=Russia). That is how a positive feling of patriotism and competition mutated into a sick refusal of being realted to Russia. It happens sometimes when wife starts to earn more than the husband. The task to protect and to supply which had to meet the consequences of reality often transforms to hatred and to attempts of home violence.

The treaty of association which represents a number of gains for EU was given an advertisment as entrance to the EU. And the gaining of membership was regarded as quick acquisition of european level of living. This was a last hope of nation that already started the descendance to fascism. The pro-european politicians refused of a fair referendum as a choice between customs union and EU. Yanukovich was leading a country to EU counting for Russia's sponsorship. But once Yanukovich realised that entering the EU he will need to ruin his economy and noone will compensate the losses he had to refuse the last moment. In fact he had to forese a terrible end of economy and he couldn't afford that. Then the movement started. In winter there were fascist parades in Kiev demanding to part with Russia. It was confronted in Crimea and south east. But the feeling of a soon victory over russians heated those who were gradually turning into fascists. That's why they haven't accepted the capitulation of Yanukovich and insisted on bloody revolution. The war with russians is an easy way to feel an prove yourself as superior.

For now the nation is separated by a civil war and has to face ruined economy, which noone will compensate. Selling a nation as firewood for the fire of world war seems the only gain that pro-european politicans might earn on a failing state. Today's political crisis is finishing the project. Now the blood (without ANY involvance of Putin) will stream westwards.and ukrainians will have to become hostages and feel all the sufferings of their illusions. The future of Ukraine is not within EU or within Russia. They should build up their own country and establish decent and strong friendly relationship with their closest neighbours. If Ukraine becomes a bridge from EU to Russia that will be its chance. But it will take efforts and time of sufferings which noone will be able to help ukrainians out.

 

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Why isn't this joke thread posted in the Humor & Satire Sub-forum where it belongs?

 

For me it was important what the media is engaged in propaganda and what else I can trust. If I see some interesting news on Russia 24 or Espreso TV, I double-check before using this information. But to take quick decisions need news feeds that I can trust. Reuters is still one of these news feeds. And I would be very sorry to lose it for myself.

In any case, the real information must have the primary source, which is still trusted. For example, it's silly to read the Strelkov's words on the Espreso TV or Avakov's words on Russia 24. Better goto http://forum-antikvariat.ru/index.p...s[forums][sortKey]=date&st=0&userMode=content and https://uk-ua.facebook.com/arsen.avakov.1 But to jump on the internet in search of the original source is very difficult. News feeds as Reuters is rescue when I can not trust them.

 

Because only idiots laugh at tragedy.

 

True, but I was laughing at your credulity.

 

thanx for given examples
the first is quite truthful, because everybody knows that all terrorists's weapons came from russia.
The second, I know nothing about looters and whom they killed.

 

neither is true; weapons in itself doesn't mean the rebels will down a commercial plane; what benefit they'd get from it?

 

the sponsorship of terrorism

 

what terrorism? there's no terrorism in East Ukraine whatsoever, only freedom fighters against the CIA installed mob of Nazi thugs in Kiev.