Border Patrol union backs Senate immigration bill despite House GOP opposition

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  1. Arkanis

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    The union that represents front-line Border Patrol agents supports the Senate immigration reform bill, saying the new authorities it gives agents to turn migrants away are a key step in the right direction.

    That's despite heavy opposition from House Republicans that might scuttle the effort -- at least for the time being.

    The National Border Patrol Council has previously endorsed Donald Trump for president and routinely takes hard-line positions on immigration enforcement.

    "This is absolutely better than what we currently have," National Border Patrol Council President Brandon Judd told ABC News.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bor...e-immigration-bill-despite/story?id=106969976

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    Would someone please explain to the border patrollers that they don't know any better than Trump (and GOP elected officials) what's good for them?

    If Trump says this bill is terrible, especially because it takes away a strong argument against Biden, it's because he's putting America first.

    MAGA logic 101....
     
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    Trump wants the border fiasco as an election cudgel issue.....so MAGA now falls right in line and whine and blame.
     
  3. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why the **** does the border patrol have a union? So that government can protect them from government?
     
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    Considering they also endorsed the wall, is this really the group you want to appeal to authority to? I’d say no.

    Apparently, because they did endorse the wall, then Democrats knew better than the CBP on what’s good for them. At least according to the logic used here.
     
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    Border Patrol union backs Senate immigration bill despite House GOP opposition

    The gang that couldn't shoot straight.

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  6. Arkanis

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    Trump knows better than they do what it takes to secure the border.

    He's the stable genius who plays 3D chess.

    If Trump says it's a bad bill, even before it's been made public, it's a bad bill.

    Understand?
     
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    MAGA "wooooorrrrd" brother!
     
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    Now Senate Republicans have backed away from a bill they even authored.

    https://news.yahoo.com/senate-eyes-plan-ukraine-israel-171325744.html
    Senate Republicans blocked a bipartisan border package Wednesday, scuttling months of negotiations with Democrats on legislation intended to cut back record numbers of illegal border crossings.

    More wasted time and money. !!!!
    Other than stamping their feet, they get nothing done.
     
  9. Chuck711

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    There are no resources to stop the influx of illegals

    Chris Christie had a plan to do so and that required 20,000 new border personnel and Lots of facilities to house illegal's

    This takes money

    Executives orders can't solve the problem. It will be overturn in the courts as was under Trump It needs Legislation

    Now the Republicans have assumed the responsibility for the Border Crisis

    They can blame Trump
     
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    The border patrol union would back a proposal that decreases immigrants by a grand total of 1 given how much they have been thrown under the bus by the lefty clowns for three decades.

    So the **** what? Lol

    I told you. Give us what we want or suffer the consequences.
     
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  11. Arkanis

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    You don't know what you want and you have no idea what's in this bill.

    If Trump says this bill is no good, for whatever reason, you'll drink his words.

    'Cause you're a good MAGA.
     
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    How can anyone negotiate with these people in good faith? They have wasted four months working on this to come to a compromise, only for the GOP Senators to turn around and vote against the bill, just because Trump said so. Even the ones who supported the bill before Trump bombed it. Why? Because they are afraid of Trump and his MAGA voters, who also don't tolerate any compromise.

    It reminds me of the health care debacle, when Obama tried to compromise by removing the public option, only for all GOP Senators to vote against the bill anyway. You cannot negotiate with these people when they cannot be trusted to have good faith. Obama eventually realized this and stopped negotiating and used more executive orders.
     
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    lol I know most of what's in the bill. I've read 132 pages of it so far. Which I'm sure is a hell of a lot more than you've read.

    Nevertheless I know exactly what I want as well. The bill says that at 4000 avg per day within a week they have the option of shutting the border down and process all applicants until they're caught up. At 5,000 they're forced to shut it down. Or at 8500 in one day.

    What I want is for the border to be enforced. Meaning there's ABSOLUTELY no reason for the 4,000 or 5,000 numbers. None, I repeat NONE, of those people need to be processed. They aren't qualified for asylum. In order to seek asylum you must request it at a designated port of entry. If you come across the border illegally, you can't asylum because you didn't come through a designated port of entry.

    As such, the border should be shut down to every single one of those criminals with absolutely no need for processing for asylum claims b cause NONE of them qualify.
     
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    Well Duh ofcourse the Union supports more border patrol employees that makes them stronger, so do the republicans and most democrats. Funny thing about bills you have to vote YEA to all of the bill, not just the parts you like.
     
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    You want me to put a list of the border bills put up by mostly republicans but a few bipartisan ones that were wholesale rejected by the democrats because they didn't get their path to citizenship?

    Because I GUARANTEE you my list of border bills shot down by democrats will be longer than your list of one shot down by republicans.
     
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    There's not a lot of detail in that article. Why would BP support a bill that allows 5000 illegals a day to enter our country? Also, why would they even trust Biden and Mayorkas after saying they didn't?

    I'll stick with the border patrol people I see on the news who hammer Biden, Harris and Mayorkas.
     
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    We have 1,950 miles of Border with more than 300 million people, approximately 90 million cars, and 4.3 million truck crossings.

    With only 19,357 Border Patrol agents; 569 Air interdiction agents (pilots); 364 Marine interdiction agents and 363 Aviation agents

    Controlling the border properly is impossible and hasn't Ever been accomplished in 30 years

    We need more resources and that requires Legislation

    Republicans are responsible for that
     
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    They support it because this bipartisan bill will greatly improve their working conditions.

    It's all there in the article

    Have you considered their arguments or would you prefer to have Trump as your only reference on the matter?

    Are you still waiting for the check from Mexico to pay for the Wall?
     
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    Trump - that didn't take long. What I am still waiting for is to save $2500 on my healthcare and get better quality care.

    Regarding their arguments, here is all that was said:

    I take that to mean anything is better than Biden opening up the border on day one and still leaving it open.

    Do you still believe Biden, Harris and Mayorkas when they say the border is secure? For three years you did. And can you copy and paste from the article the text that covers working conditions? I'm not a lib, I read past the headlines.
     
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    Yes, please. I really wonder why Trump and co didn't fix the border when he had the WH, the Senate and the House? He didn't even get the wall built, let alone have Mexico pay for it. I guess tax cuts for the corps on the national credit card were more important.
     
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    What's wrong with HR2 that was passed by the house last may? I keep asking and never get any responses.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2
     
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    Here's your legislation Republicans came up with and Schumer won't take it up in the senate. Why?

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2
     
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    A union isn’t the govt. you sound very confused.
     
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    So you think they’re wrong about both or are you doing the same thing you’re complaining about?
     

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