"Bossy!!!"

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  1. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    The feminist biased media's current obsession is the detrimental effect being called, "bossy" may have on girls, meanwhile:


    •Intersection of Race and Gender: The inequities male students face are apparent across the lines of race and class, but tend to be more severe among male students of color.
    •ADHD/drugs: Male students are twice as likely to be diagnosed with ADHD and are 2.8 times more likely than female students (and 64% of the total) to be put on drugs for this perceived disorder (source). There is great concern that boys have been misdiagnosed and overmedicated for ADHD, and that the effect has rather been to suppress the energy and nature of boys, whereas educational institutions should develop methods to redirect them to more productive tasks.

    •Learning Disabilities: Male students are 75% of those diagnosed with learning disabilities.
    •High School Dropout Rate: Male students are more likely to drop out of high school (9% of male students compared to 7% of female students).
    •Literacy vis-a-vis Math Concepts: Boys are lagging behind in reading and especially in writing. In 2001 the Educational Testing Service measured that the gap favoring girls in writing concepts is six times greater than the gap favoring boys in math concepts. Source: Educational Testing Services (ETS) Gender Study, “Trends by Subject, Fourth through Twelfth Grades,” Figure 2-1. Cited in Misreading Masculinity by Thomas Newkirk, p. 35.
    •School Participation: Male students are much less likely to participate in student government, academic clubs, music, the performing arts, and student clubs.
    •As and Fs: Male students in lower education receive the majority of Ds and Fs and the minority of As. Source: Dr. Michael Gurian and Kathy Stevens, The Minds Of Boys: Saving Our Sons from Falling Behind in School and Life. San Francisco: Jossey-Bass, 2005.
    •Scholarships and Grants: Male students are afforded far fewer scholarships on the basis of sex, and are unable to receive any government assistance if they have not registered for the draft, a limitation from which female students are exempt.
    •Repeating Grades: By age 12, boys are 60% more likely to have repeated at least one grade. Source: Peg Tyre, “The Trouble with Boys.” Newsweek, January 30, 2006. Data from U.S. Department of Education.
    •Suicides: Male students commit 80% of suicides overall and high school/college men ages 15-24 commit suicide at six times the rate of women (sources here and here). According to the American Association of Suicidology, “In the past 60 years, the suicide rate has quadrupled for males 15 to 24 years old, and has doubled for females of the same age.”
    •Affirmative Action: Educational institutions and their regulatory bodies do not utilize or support affirmative action consistently between the sexes. When women are falling behind male students, educational institutions bring out affirmative action grants, scholarships, admissions, tutoring/mentoring services, and more, all in the name of equal representation. But when some colleges started to give male students affirmative action in admissions when their enrollments started dropping substantially below that of female students, they are investigated by groups like the Civil Rights Commission.
    •Liking School: The number of boys who said they did not like school rose 71% between 1980 and 2001. Source: University of Michigan, Institute for Social Research, Monitoring the Future Study, 1980 to 2001. Cited in National Center for Education Statistics, Trends in Educational Equity of Girls and Women: 2004, p. 45, Figure 13: “How do you feel about school?”
    •Male Role-Models: Many boys lack positive male role-models at home due to their fathers being absent or excluded from the family. This is compounded by the lack of male role-models in lower education where male teachers are a minority. In preschool, male teachers are only 1.9% of the workforce, and in elementary and middle school they are 18.6% of teachers (source).
    •Recess: Recess periods, which are critical for boys’ psychosocial development, have been phased out at numerous institutions. In addition, some teachers deny students their recess “privileges” as a form of punishment

    •Intersection of Race and Gender: The inequities male students face are apparent across the lines of race and class, but tend to be more severe among male students of color.
    •ADHD/drugs: Male students are twice as likely to be diagnosed with ADHD and are 2.8 times more likely than female students (and 64% of the total) to be put on drugs for this perceived disorder (source). There is great concern that boys have been misdiagnosed and overmedicated for ADHD, and that the effect has rather been to suppress the energy and nature of boys, whereas educational institutions should develop methods to redirect them to more productive tasks.

    •Learning Disabilities: Male students are 75% of those diagnosed with learning disabilities.
    •High School Dropout Rate: Male students are more likely to drop out of high school (9% of male students compared to 7% of female students).
    •Literacy vis-a-vis Math Concepts: Boys are lagging behind in reading and especially in writing. In 2001 the Educational Testing Service measured that the gap favoring girls in writing concepts is six times greater than the gap favoring boys in math concepts. Source: Educational Testing Services (ETS) Gender Study, “Trends by Subject, Fourth through Twelfth Grades,” Figure 2-1. Cited in Misreading Masculinity by Thomas Newkirk, p. 35.
    •School Participation: Male students are much less likely to participate in student government, academic clubs, music, the performing arts, and student clubs.
    •As and Fs: Male students in lower education receive the majority of Ds and Fs and the minority of As. Source: Dr. Michael Gurian and Kathy Stevens, The Minds Of Boys: Saving Our Sons from Falling Behind in School and Life. San Francisco: Jossey-Bass, 2005.
    •Scholarships and Grants: Male students are afforded far fewer scholarships on the basis of sex, and are unable to receive any government assistance if they have not registered for the draft, a limitation from which female students are exempt.
    •Repeating Grades: By age 12, boys are 60% more likely to have repeated at least one grade. Source: Peg Tyre, “The Trouble with Boys.” Newsweek, January 30, 2006. Data from U.S. Department of Education.
    •Suicides: Male students commit 80% of suicides overall and high school/college men ages 15-24 commit suicide at six times the rate of women (sources here and here). According to the American Association of Suicidology, “In the past 60 years, the suicide rate has quadrupled for males 15 to 24 years old, and has doubled for females of the same age.”
    •Affirmative Action: Educational institutions and their regulatory bodies do not utilize or support affirmative action consistently between the sexes. When women are falling behind male students, educational institutions bring out affirmative action grants, scholarships, admissions, tutoring/mentoring services, and more, all in the name of equal representation. But when some colleges started to give male students affirmative action in admissions when their enrollments started dropping substantially below that of female students, they are investigated by groups like the Civil Rights Commission.
    •Liking School: The number of boys who said they did not like school rose 71% between 1980 and 2001. Source: University of Michigan, Institute for Social Research, Monitoring the Future Study, 1980 to 2001. Cited in National Center for Education Statistics, Trends in Educational Equity of Girls and Women: 2004, p. 45, Figure 13: “How do you feel about school?”
    •Male Role-Models: Many boys lack positive male role-models at home due to their fathers being absent or excluded from the family. This is compounded by the lack of male role-models in lower education where male teachers are a minority. In preschool, male teachers are only 1.9% of the workforce, and in elementary and middle school they are 18.6% of teachers (source).
    •Recess: Recess periods, which are critical for boys’ psychosocial development, have been phased out at numerous institutions. In addition, some teachers deny students their recess “privileges” as a form of punishment
     
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    I think it's kind of funny you can't turn on the radio, the television, or the internet without hearing how being called, "bossy" may be detrimental to girls, yet you rarely here, if you ever here, that boys make up 75% of those diagnosed with learning disabilities or that boys are 2.8 times more often diagnosed with ADHD.


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    I think it's kind of funny you can't turn on the radio, the television, or the internet without hearing how being called, "bossy" may be detrimental to girls, yet you rarely here, if you ever here, that 80% of student suicides are committed by males.
     
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    The people reporting on the radio, TV and Internet are all generally doing it for the money and so of course pick topics that will bring them more views and generate them more money. It's a business and it'd be silly to think they really care about real issues affecting people. If it doesn't make them money they are not going to care, which is why it's hard to find a media source that really does care about the important issues.
     
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    You don't think it's because feminism is politically correct, therefore; it's feminist, "issues," that are reported in the media???
     
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    It could be linked to that. If society likes to hear about social issues involving women and the media reports on that and it brings in views then they will do it. But again when you think about it it all comes back around to, "What do people want to hear about/Get into an uproar about and what will make them listen/watch which will ultimately bring the most money in?"
     
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    It's also a good example of how female suffering is thought of as much more important than male suffering.
     
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    Maybe if people spent more time telling their boys that they can succeed if they try, that if they fall behind they can get a tutor, and spending less time telling them to be goofy or that their only goal in life is to hit puberty than maybe we wouldn't be in the mess you describe.

    I doubt the nature of boys includes yelling "Bossy!!!" and "feminist bias" at girls all the time.
     
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    Females do better in school when given the chance and have less mental issues. Shame cultures couldn't have figured this out centuries ago.
     
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    Bossy is often used to replace another B word when it comes to women. It is ok to call your male boss a D word but not your female boss a B behind their backs apparently.
     
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    FTR.... I'm against women's suffrage....

    ;)
     
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    Why are you against women's suffrage?
     
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    Um...I think he was joking. Like it was a play on words.
     
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    Oh man, you mean sarcasm??? Wow, it's just so hard to read that on the Internet sometimes. Do you think it would it be wrong of me to continue throwing his words in his face though and pointing out he's against the woman's right to vote even if he explains himself multiple times?
     
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    Oh no, it's not ok for either! :rolleyes:
     
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    imo bossy is just gender specific term applied to female control freaks...we have male control freaks as well, we just apply different names to them, micro manners, tyrants, dictators, control freaks, butt-holes...if you prefer to call women names those will it make a difference?...mrs wyly is a bossy, control freak/dictator,tyrant, butt-hole, micro manager that I ignore...
     
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    Uh....wut???
     
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    Oh do you mean the time you said your husband was, "inferior," and then later in another post backtracked and said it was, "sarcasm"???
     
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    omg you remembered!

    And yes I do mean that one. The one where I was basically saying, if I was a feminist like the one you were describing why would I choose to be in a relationship with a man at all? Because the feminist you were describing sounded like the type of person who despises men so much she would never go anywhere near one, let alone choose to marry or have regular intimacy with one because she would view him as inferior.

    But considering I am in a totally kickass relationship with my man...well that just kinda blew your extremist feminist labeling outta the water. ;)
     
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    Great to hear!
     
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    Thanks. =)
     
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    I think if anything "bossy"'d have an empowering effect on females, since it'd imply that one day they could succeed in the workplace and become "the boss".

    That's how trite and meaningless the rhetoric of these radical feminist groups is.
     

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