Brazil is ALL-IN on Renewable Energy and Electric Vehicles

Brazil has more than 135 GWatts of renewable capacity. That's an incredible number considering the highest capacity for a nuclear power plant in the world is around 6 GWatts.

https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/renewable-energy-producers-south-america/

South America is one of the world's leading renewable energy-producing regions, with a total installed capacity of 211.2GW...

With a total installed capacity of 135.6GW in 2018, Brazil is the top renewable energy-producing country in South America. The country generates more than 76% of its renewable energy from hydropower facilities. Its total hydropower capacity was 104.1GW in 2018.

Couple the renewables with Brazil's love for EVs and you have a sustainable eco-energy system that is admirable to the rest of the world.

https://latinamericanpost.com/busin...ontinues-as-sales-set-to-surge-by-60-in-2024/

January 2024 article ---
In a country known for its love affair with internal combustion engines and abundant supplies of sugarcane-derived ethanol, Brazil is on the cusp of a green automotive revolution. The wheels of change are turning rapidly as sales of fully electric and hybrid vehicles are poised to soar by a staggering 60% this year, a forecast by the Brazilian Association of Electric Vehicles (ABVE) reveals.

 

Can't speak for "the rest of the world" but I'm certainly not impressed.

And, again, you fail to give any data on what the total energy consumption of Brazil is in order to give some useful idea of the relative scale of these numbers are. Or how big their automotive market actually is.

As of now, these are just useless numbers.

 

Brazil is a big country, 212 million people and 71 million light vehicles. You can look up the rest.

https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/brazil/motor-vehicle-registered

 

That tells me nothing about actual new vehicle sales. And again, the OP is just a bunch of unanchored percentages, a pretty sure sign of politically motivated BS.

 

Electric cars are and ecological disaster.

 

Yeah I think people won't buy them when they figure out how crappy they are. Especially since a regular car built 15 years ago is more advanced.

 

The beauty of electric cars is that they can be powered by renewable energy, and that's what many are doing. That said, I believe that a bicycle is a more ecological mode of transportation, followed by mass transit.

 

Walking is the most ecological mode of transportation. But it's useless if you're trying to do serious work of any sort.

 

Oh baby! You couldn't be more wrong. Check out the Yangwang, from the number one EV seller in the world - BYD. Yes, they recently passed Tesla in 2023 for sales, although Tesla has recaptured the lead in 2024 so far. This car goes from 0 to 62 MPH in 2.36 seconds!

https://electrek.co/2024/02/26/byd-launches-233k-yangwang-u9-ev-supercar-ferrari/

 

Good point!

 

But the battery is an ecological disaster. And they are disposable trash.

For certain travel sure. Electric bicycles seen too work. Electric buses are profoundly stupid.

 

Until the battery is discharged than it's going nowhere for a while. 0-1MPH in 6 hours.

Also Chinese EVs are notorious for going crematorium mode. Live to dead in 3 seconds.


My old F-150 in a thousand Mile race will beat that **** mobile by the better part of a week.

 

Any manufacturing process is going to have ecological overhead. Take a look at petroleum refining - a lot of hazardous wastes including radioactive wastes, which are regulated by the NRC (big government there). The difference is that the battery production are a one-time problem, as is ICE vehicle production, whereas petrol is used every day by ICEs.

 

An EV will beat the fastest ICE any day of the week (over the first 100 meters). I own an electric car and I've never had the problems you mention. I will never go back to an ICE. They will be extinct soon.

 

So your battery never goes dead and you never charge it?

Electric car enthusiasts seem more like a cult.

 

Yes, do you put gas in your car? I have more Conservative acquaintances that own electric cars than liberals. One thing I noticed is that most people who are critical of EVs have never driven one. Have you? Careful - you may never go back if you do.

 

And all of that still applies even if cars are electric. Ships are still going to burn bunker oil and truck will still need to deliver goods

And then there is the problem of disposal. Turning cars into e-waste isn't good.

Just more trash.

 

Yeah but I fill it up to 100% charge in a couple of min. And it doesn't damage it to do so.

Yeah it's a toy for the wealthy.

No but if I have driven one that won't make the battery not have to be charged. My criticism is about that among other things.

I would take the opportunity to drive one I bet it's fun. I don't want to open one though.

 

Petroleum refining is regulated by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission?????

In which parallel universe?

 

ICE, arguably the greatest invention in history, is going to be extinct soon? You've got to be kidding me.

As you point out, EV's go instantly to full torque due to the electric motors (but you probably knew that given your BS in Electrical Engineering). But that's all they do better than ICE. A one trick pony which is OK if you're a closet boy racer.

Everything else possibly demanded of a vehicle (ie- anything that involves work) is better accomplished by ICE.

Of course, I'm sure you covered that in your BS in Electrical Engineering.

 

EVs - quieter, unpolluting (some of our cities will breathe a lot easier), no trips to the gas station, most charging at home, can run off renewables like mine.

 

And as vehicles capable of doing work (you know, the kinds of things most people buy them for), EVs are awful.

Apparently you have the luxury of not really doing any real work with your EV. Good for you. Must be nice. But if you're sending the government after my F150, you've got to have more than that juvenile canard.

 

Ah yes, Brazil. "Brazil is the country of the future and always will be." --Charles De Gaulle

 

They're a much better country after they got rid of the Trump clone, Bolsinaro.

 

But people stopped buying them. That suggests that all the people that want them have them and all the people that can afford them have them.

The trade-off for a car that's quieter and that you don't have to take to the gas station is a much more expensive much more poorly built car. That if you don't own a home or don't have a way to charge it where you live it is in profoundly inconvenient.

It's a rich person's toy. I'm not rich I don't own a home. So I'm stuck having to charge it wherever there is charging stations. And should I want to tow something I'll have to rent a real vehicle.

But I have this old truck that I bought 7 years ago when it was 7 years old for about 8,000 bucks and I can tow with it it's cheap to ensure it's not poorly built. It's not heavy I don't have to charge it with electricity so I don't have to own a home that I can install a charger in. And if you add up all the cost of gasoline over the entire time I've had it and driven it it's still not as expensive as an electric car.

I don't think they're the future because you can't speed up the charging that's limited by the laws of physics. You're not going to get a better battery the battery is anode which is made out of lithium oxide is the best material we have to make an anode out of. So unless you're talking about inventing a new atom this is as good as it gets.