BREAKING: Bolton to Claim Trump Held Up Ukraine Military Aid Over Biden Investigations

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    False on all accounts.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    False.
     
  3. rahl

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    no he didn't. the link you provided doesn't contradict anything I said.



    reality makes it real. it's why he is impeached. there is nothing fake about the impeachment of trump. he is now and forever remains impeached.
     
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    Holder testified and turned over documents
     
  5. MrTLegal

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    “Frankly, he wanted to do things not necessarily tougher than me,” Trump said, later adding that Bolton “wasn't in line with what we were doing, and actually, in some cases, he thought it was too tough what we were doing.”
     
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    Peek? "Involved"?

    Probably NOT.
     
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    Does bill Clintons acquittal mean he didn't commit perjury?

    You don't seem to know what the impeachment process means.
     
  8. MrTLegal

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    I can think of a way to get Bolton to tell us what he knows AND you can hold him accountable if he lies...
     
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    Are you serious?

    Do you even know when Trump released the aid?
     
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    WRONG.

    The member you responded to did a great job of explaining things.
     
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    False on all accounts. Why make up such false statements. We can all read it.

    Yikes, moving on.
     
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    Yes indeed Obama abused his power.

    Read the abuses for yourself...

    https://www.google.com/search?ei=NW...hUKEwji6qGi6KTnAhXN6Z4KHXccAgAQ4dUDCAo&uact=5
    There is no such thing as abuse of power and obstruction of congress crime.

    That's a made up fantasy crap by Trump hating Democrats who can't beat him at the ballot box.
     
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    there are no abuse of power allegations anywhere in what you linked.

    this is demonstrably false. Clinton was impeached for contempt of congress, and trump impeached for obstructing congress.
    well, reality says otherwise.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    I thought Trump was a liar?

    Let's recap...

    Bolton: Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
    Trump: No wars

    Pssssst! Get back to me when Trump is tougher than Bolton.
     
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    Ukraine admitted that they had no idea that the aid was frozen until after the phone call. That is a fact.
     
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    He was wrong on ALL accounts.
     
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    *LOL*

    I'm tired of correcting the trumpers' false claims.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    LMFAO!

    The link I provided shows all the ways Obama abused his powers.
    False.

    Bill Clinton was NOT impeached for "contempt of congress".

    Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury, suborned perjury and obstruction of justice.
     
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    You haven't presented a shred of evidence that my last post was false in any way. Your cheap one line post is empty and phony pure factless B.S. that comes from cowardice. . . Here is: what is said:

    Absolutely it does.. In the readout as soon as Zelensky asked for the missile funding Trump immediately asked a favor of him. The favor included looking into crowd strike and the investigation of Biden. The fact that Zelensky had to ask for more missiles tells us he didn't have any and definitely needed them for his country to survive. So the missiles were held back. Trump used his power of office to defame and/or investigate an Americana rival candidate Joe Biden. Trump should be remove from office definitely ..I hope your not pushing the old garbage lie that Trump was looking into corruption in Ukraine because there are 100s of millions of dollars of corruption in Ukraine in various forms shapes and sizes.and Trump never asked about any of these. .So by now we should both agree that that line of defense for Trump's behavior is pure B.S.

    I think you know how assign that comment is. The readout of the call was more than a leak and it confirmed in a conversation that Ukraine was out of missiles after they were held back,That Zelensky was desperate to have more missiles and the first thing Trump did was to ask a favor of a country that was fighting a powerful Russian invasion. We both know that Trump could have asked our State Department and/ or our intelligence agencies to investigate Biden in years 2017 and 2018 but he didn't or if he did there was no announcement of Biden corruption. So Trump was concerned about Biden only when he was front runner in2019.
    David Holms, Gorden Soundland, Bill Taylor, Alexander Vindman who listened to the call Fiona Hill the NSC director who listen to the call stated that an exchange of Missiles for dirt on Joe Biden was Trump policy. Trump is guilty and now we can ad John Bolton the former head of the USC to the list of those who confirm that Trump was offering missiles for dirt on Biden or an announcement of an investigation into the Biden's. You can't use foreign policy or the power of the presidency as a tool to investigate a rival American presidential candidate in a foreign country.


    So you believe that Trump did abuse his powers and you're justifying it by alleging that Obama did the same thing. Thanks for your confession. We both agree that Trump has defied democracy, the American people and the constitution and it looks like you find nothing wrong with it based on the lame ass excuse that somehow Obama did the same thing. Obama is not the president. He's gone and no matter how hard you try you cannot blame Trumps abuses of power on Obama.
     
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    I'm not interested in your test in the context of this thread but, since you like tests, here's one for you.

    Do you honestly believe that Trump did not withhold the aid on the conditionallity of the announcement of an investigation of the Bidens? The announcement, mind you, not the conduct of an actual investigation because nothing needs to be real in a reality TV presidency. It just has to look like it might be shady to have the desired effect.

    Do you seriously believe Trump wouldn't do something like this to further his political aims?

    Even if you knew with 100% certainty that he did, conditionally, withhold the aid, would you even care?
     
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    Oh I wrote that with the full knowledge you'd defend it.
     
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    No need. Just like with Biden there aren't likely to be any subpoenas-because the underlying impeachment charges are so weak, and being dismantled easily.
     
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    Gosh you mean lame internet accusations of illegality don’t win arguments? Lol
     
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    The walls are closing in. Bombshell. Trump has no frens.

    Three years and not a one of you have learned anything from running face first into the wall over and over and over.
     
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    Oh yeah the Trump/Russian collusion investigation is everything you said it would be 3 years ago.

    Made myself laugh.
     

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