Breaking: New FBI document confirms the Trump campaign was investigated without justification

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  1. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    More proof that the entire RW Narrative is a Non-Issue.
     
  2. BuckyBadger

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    A new Update: Fmr Dep AG Rosenstein to appear before Senate Judiciary Cmte June 3. hearing is titled “Oversight of the Crossfire Hurricane Investigation: Day 1”
     
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  3. AmericanNationalist

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    Sure, it's a crime if it can be proven. But it can't be proven and why don't we use the document that the FBI used for clarity:

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/JW-v-DOJ-reply-02743.pdf

    Since a lot of this has become public information, let's start by filling in boxes. It's the George Papadoupolis conversation with Alexander Downer, this was the FBI's public statement and their draft document supports that statement.

    However, there's the weeds in the details, first of all the FBI(IE: Strzok) wrongly conflates two separate email issues, the DNC hacking which given the context of the conversation was unknown to Papadoupolis or anyone at the time, and then the Hillary emails from her private server.

    What Papa was referring to, were Hillary's emails. Bernie Sanders also asked Secretary Clinton to release her emails but apparently Bernie wasn't to be investigated as 'colluding' with the Russians ;)



    Secondly, for this to be their opener it is ironic that both Downer and Papadoupolis contest the details that the FBI has stated, and considering they were the ones in the conversation...that makes the FBI's justification to be weak and unreliable.

    Then the most damning(and stupid) thing is that Strozok undermined his own justification by writing at the bottom of his report that the Russians could have acted, with or without collaboration with the Trump Campaign. Putting them right back where they started: No proof, not even probable proof of anything.

    They had no basis to open up Crossfire Hurricane.
     
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    "New FBI document confirms the Trump campaign was investigated without justification"

    fake news
     
  5. struth

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    That's just incorrect. Here campaign was well aware of it. Her campaign hired Fuscion GPS in April of 2016, and then Steele was hired specifically to get dirt on Trump by her campaign in June 2016,. The DNC and Clinton stopped funding this project after they lost the election....but then the Obama DOJ picked up the backing....knowing Steele was not reliable
     
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    So... It wasn't illegal. Got it.
     
  7. Andrew Jackson

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    Well...

    It IS an OPINION Piece...

    BY KEVIN R. BROCK, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

    Obviously, it is just an OPINION.

    It isn't meant to be taken seriously as any sort of "news".
     
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    If the Trump campaign committed a crime they would have been charged...they didn't, there for they weren't......but the Obamagate gang continued their illegal spying, and in fact set up a meeting with a Trump official in an attempt to undermine the new admin

    Thank you....we know this...this is Obamagate.
     
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    i think they could have made the charges stick, but Trump has a strangehold over the DOJ so they gave up
     
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    Lol...If we had an honest AG and repub party, trump would have been impeached and convicted by now. The fact that he had foreign agents working for his campaign is why the government was looking into criminal actions.
    But we both know this is just a distraction from trump's failure to rise to the pandemic challenge.
     
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    not neccessarily, especially with the Trump stranglehold on the DOJ
     
  12. struth

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    oh Comey wouldn't have charged him? He had such a huge stangehold of the DOJ he was able to keep Comey and Mueller from charging Flynn and hiding evidence? Such a stranglehold he keep Mueller working? hahaha


    Keep dreaming

    Moreover Trump CAMPAIGN, was during the Obama admin. As you said they would have charged it, but the Trump campaign didn't do anything illegal
     
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    My primary thought is this was posted in the OPINION section of thehill.com for a reason....

    I also am looking forward to the call transcripts coming out. I was a bit taken aback when Sullivan allowed them to be withheld last year, in contradiction to his original order.

    To quote Dr. Zaius, "you may not like what you find"

    Note, that if ONE WORD of what Flynn said is redacted, it goes immediately into the bullshit pile... They can (and should) redact all of what Kislyak said, for the obvious reasons...
     
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    Actually, after a little clicking, I found the document this guy is referring to.... Completely redacted, so it's hard to follow, but it's the first time I've ever seen that... Thanks

    Last paragraph:

    "Based upon the information provided by [The Aussie Dude via Coffee Boy], this investigation is being opened to determine whether individual(s) associated with the Trump campaign are witting of and/or coordinating activities with the Government of Russia"

    End of the day, there are dozens of examples of both in the Mueller report.... just no actual conspiracy...

    Good job, Pete...
     
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    You realize that what you said is hypocritical right? It should ALL be unredacted. And I'll accept the truth, no matter where it leads because at least then it was the truth. But here's what we know as a fact: It's never going to come from Crossfire Hurricane members. They knew as early as January, 2017 and during the House closed sessions that there wasn't a crime.

    But they told the media and the public otherwise, deceiving us ALL. EVERYONE. YOU INCLUDED. It's not a right wing(or even a left wing) talking point, when asked to tell the truth these bastards couldn't. Why do you still trust them after lying to your face?
     
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    How is an "opinion piece" in the current events section?
     
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    Time and time again those associated with this investigation told the truth under oath - that there was no knowledge or evidence of collusion. Then they would make the media rounds and say the exact opposite - they would repeat lie after lie on television without reservation or shame. Its clear now that they all knew it was a malicious prosecution with the only intent being to remove an elected President from office.
     
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    Nobody denied carter page had a warrant
     
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    They hacked the dnc and helped trump because they favored hillary? Lol
     
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    Nothing in my post is even disputed
     
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    Nobody will go to jail because nothing in your post is accurate.
     
  22. AmericanNationalist

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    You willing to bet on that? I'll pull an 'AJ', if no one on the Crossfire Hurricane team is indicted I won't post for whatever duration of your choosing, deal.
     
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    Someone may get charged with a leak. But they aren’t going to arrest agents for doing a bad job. Scotus would throw it out in a heartbeat like they did bridgegate
     
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    Real quickly: We now know that the FBI was aware that the sub-source was invalidated in early January, 2017. Despite this, they continued surveillance of US Person Carter Page. If the FISA court has any legal and lawful authority, then making a misleading or false statement to it, is PERJURY.

    We know it to be so, because it says that on the freaking documents for the warrants.(Released with redactions by Rosenstein.). That June 3rd meeting will be interesting, because Rosenstein signed one of those documents and is by definition a defendant(and no longer protected by the DOJ, though obviously he can retain his own counsel.)

    I expect an event similar to Lois Lerner and a lot of 5th amendment plea's(I don't hold the President's position that the 5th amendment is incriminating per se, it's there to prevent you from incriminating yourself.) It does however, open eyes and makes one curious to continue investigation.
     
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    Fake news. No evidence the server was hacked.Speed transfer rate actually points to an inside job. :)

    See above.
     

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