BREAKING: Romney picks Paul Ryan

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  1. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    Unemployment is stuck because of over regulation, over taxing and uncertainty.
     
  2. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ryan is popular across the state, and you shouldn't discount the fact he'd be Wisconsin's first VP. Wisconsin will be an actual battleground state this cycle.
     
  3. Consmike

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    Its also going to force Obama to campaign in WI, a state that he shouldn't have to spend any time in.
     
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    You should stop lying. If you believed I was intelligent, this shouldn't have been the first time you admit it. But it didn't serve your agenda, does it? Not unless you can disingenuously claim that someone was intelligent when you no longer believe so.

    You can be dammed sure that Neo-Nazi organizations have a political platform. Are you too lazy to look?

    You'd better tell one of their party spokespeople that they're not a Party!



    I would also suggest that you inform other misguided leftist news outlets that NeoNazis are not "far right".

    I have no interest in holding your hand through the scary jungle which is life, RPM. I suggest you learn some facts, instead of the morass of stupidity you've clearly been drowning in. There is a very large list of NeoNazi organizations.

    Ignorance is no excuse.
     
  5. jackdog

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    I have to disagree becasue Ryan appeals to the conservatives, this should shut up the far right talk radio people. The Ryan choice changes the entire narrative of the debates and forces Medicare, the debt and size of government into the picture. The top concerns of Americans according to Gallup are the unemployment, the economy in general, and the federal budget. There is no way the Obama camp can attack Ryan without bringing the deficit and Medicare into the conversation. Ryan will be the lead dog on the deficit and the budget, Romney will tackle jobs and unemployment. I think Romney just cemented his win
     
  6. Think for myself

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    I disagree on several points, but (*)(*)(*)(*) good post. Definitely thought provoking.
     
  7. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm pretty confident most of Wisconsin really doesn't want to see Obama in Wisconsin. Times are changing, its actually turning into a purple state and hedging closer to red...
     
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    I wonder who in the news media is going to ask Ryan what news papers he reads. After all, with everything going on in the country today, that is really what people want to hear.
     
  9. ObamaSuperStar

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    LIES. Is that why Wall Street is running as high as it is? Or maybe its because the private sector is thriving. While the public sector is continuing to shrink.
     
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    it is going to make for a interesting September and October for sure. To paraphrase Michelle , "today marks the first time in my life to say I am proud of Mitt"
     
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    Well said Jack. Ryan will hammer on Medicare cuts due to Obamacare. He'll make Biden look like an aging ape in a debate because the economy will be center stage. This is going to be a good fight. Liberals will be forced to lie and get caught as they have done from the start in this campaign.
     
  12. Consmike

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    Wall street is not main street nor is it small business.

    The private sector is not thriving. Have you not been paying attention? manufacturing is down, growth is down. Give it a rest. At least romney and ryan are here to save the country.
     
  13. Think for myself

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    Well, to be fair, I think Ryan is perhaps a bit more intelligent and capable of putting forth a plan than the last (*)(*)(*)(*)ing idiot that was on the GOP ticket for VP.

    In short, I would expect Ryan to be able to actually answer that question.
     
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    Yes, I've been paying attention enough to know that Manufacturing is down for the first time in 3 YEARS.

    So for the first time in three years we should elect Romney because he is here to save our country? Really?! Romney and Ryan are both big spenders, just like the rest of the Republican party.
     
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    Of course, because that question needs to be asked. People are holding their breath dying in the streets to know.
     
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    Its not anywhere near where it needs to be, and yes, it is down in 3 years, hmmmm 3 years since Obama has been president. what a strange coincidence.
     
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    Okay. I am certain there will be some gaffes on his part, but I am sure he can answer that question.
     
  18. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    In an age where "controlling the narrative" wins the argument, I admittedly don't see the logic in this choice... you're supposed to make your opponent find kinks in your armor vs expecting to play a huge amount of defense because of the already attacked holes. Ryan is known nationally for one thing, and Romney immediately separates himself from the bulb that gives Ryan shine? Good Lord, who's running that campaign.
     
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    Public sector job growth down, private job growth up. Right direction?? Seems like it
     
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    Uh huh. :roll:

    And if Romney would have said that he's adopting Ryan's budget word-for-word, the smarmy doofuses on the left would have said that Romney doesn't have an original thought, and he's not smart enough to come up with his own budget.

    Your piece was a stupid op-ed from a stupid leftist anxious to create the impression of strife when none exists. There were no words that indicated distance except those fabricated by the author, whose opinion is worth nothing.
     
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    So where are the jobs? Companies learned they can be highly efficient with fewer people, there is simply no incentives out there to hire people when you can basically force people to work harder... Obamacare isn't helping, its hurting, every single new hire is an added cost, which hits the bottom line, nobody is going hire anyone they don't absolutely have to...
     
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    Have you ever heard of obama's "PAYROLL TAX HOLIDAY?" That is stealing from the funding of Social Security. And the Social Security Administration has stated that the obama "PAYROLL TAX HOLIDAY," WILL cause SS to go broke years sooner than was already contemplated. SS HAS to be fixed and obama's fix is to ROB from it.
     
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    As a Moderate Democrat I am starting to warm to the Ryan pick. I decided to go and read the Ryan 2013 budget proposal and found that I agree with alot of it. Much more of it than I did President Obama's budget proposal. This might be a good pick and even though I thought it might drive me away from a Romney vote (I said that about an hour ago) I am going to have to take a closer look at this. Now, I do feel that Governor Romney can be rather moderate (and for me that is good) and the Ryan plan appeals to the fiscal conservative in me. The thing is, I am rather socially liberal (as I support Marriage equality and supported the repeal of DADT and feel that DOMA is unconstitutional) and what they will do to counter my views on those. If they are truly COnstitutional Conservatives they would be against the government getting involved with legislating those types of things.
     
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    Picking Ryan was done precisely to appease conservatives.

    Of course, if the focus does change to the budget/deficit/debt, Ryan will not look nearly so good as he appears to on the surface.

    From FactCheck:

    Ryan says his plan would not increase the debt. In fact, under his plan the public debt would increase from $10 trillion in 2011 to $16 trillion in 2021, by his own figures. That’s a slower increase than under President Barack Obama’s budget, but the debt would still rise substantially.

    He says his plan would “bring deficits below $1 trillion immediately, ending the era of trillion-dollar deficits.” True — but just barely. The 2012 deficit in his plan would be $995 billion, just shy of $1 trillion. It would drop to about $700 billion by 2013 — but that’s what the president’s budget projects, too.

    A GOP document defending Ryan’s plan wrongly claims that the budget "does not cut Medicaid" and that it "spends more on Medicaid each year than it does the previous year." That's false. Ryan's own projections call for slashing Medicaid below this year's spending level for years to come.

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    Taxes?? Take a look at the effect of Ryan's tax plan. Yeah, this is Romney's kind of guy.

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    The problem with your FactCheck fiction is that it requires leftist interpretations of economic policy in order to draw the conclusions that it does. Foremost among them is the notion that tax cuts are not economically stimulative, and do not increase revenue.

    We know that to be untrue, despite the constant flak libs put up to claim otherwise. The CBPP is a leftist organization, and Paul Krugman loves them. This - naturally - calls into question the veracity of FactCheck itself, as it claims to be non-partisan as well.

    Nothing so misleading than an organization which attempts to insulate itself from claims of being partisan than to simply deny it.

    That's good enough for me to do the opposite.
     

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