Breaking: Trump threatens to close border with Mexico

You blame the victims.

The problem started back with Reagan or before. And every president on both sides let it go.

 

Same with my avatar. If most visa overstays were from Eastern Europe AKA Russia, etc. as the previous poster claimed, then the Left would be up in arms wanting to fix the problem. Most people from Eastern Europe have conservative values and would likely vote R.

But as you can see, most overstays are from shithole countries who are aligned with the Democrats.

 

How many Drug Lords we got living in the US? Keep thinking...it’ll come to you. And no Big Pharma doesn’t count, hehe.

Case Closed. Notice a pattern in where Drug Lords Live? It truly is that easy. Drug lords do it for the money. They’re not ME terrorists ok living in caves They can’t live out in the open in a 1st world country, but they can down in Mexico. We could wipe them out in a week with drone strikes. But Mexico won’t let us do it, because how does it benefit them? All the politicians and policia lose their second incomes. Why would they want to bust them?

If we stop treating ODs in ERs that would also solve some problems as well. Let nature take its course solve its own problems. Dumb enough to take drugs, just die happily NOT on the tax payers dime.

 

Day 1: The Trump administration would draw up a "proposed rule" stating that no one be allowed to wire money outside the U.S. "unless the alien first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United States."

Day 2: Here the memo predicts that "Mexico will immediately protest." It goes on: "They receive approximately $24 billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United States." A 2013 Pew Research study, based on World Bank data, put remittances from the U.S. to Mexico at nearly $23 billion, so that's close to the amount Trump's memo cites, but the campaign offers no evidence to support a claim that "The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens." (Remittances to Mexico were up almost 14 percent in February, NPR's Carrie Kahn reports from Mexico City, per BBVA Research.)

Day 3: Tell Mexico that if it agrees to come up with the cash to pay for the wall, then the "proposed rule" will never go into effect.
https://www.npr.org/2016/04/05/473109475/trumps-plan-to-make-mexico-pay-for-the-wall

Why doesn't he enact his plan?
Why didn't he negotiate this stuff into his NAFTA 2.0, which is not even up for discussion, is it?

 

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Truth? We started encouraging illegal aliens and 'migrants' from the beginning of World War II, because we needed a cheap agricultural and other 'menial'-type labor force. It worked out very well, and so in a lot of western states, like Texas and California, the practice continued -- even though it was illegal unless the foreign workers had visas (very rare) or "green cards".

Then in the 1960's, the Democrat Party hit on the idea of bringing in huge numbers of Mexicans AND THEIR FAMILIES. The method of securing larger and larger welfare handouts was amplified with the ANCHOR-BABY ploy, which brought in even more of them. They nested in here, protected by the citizen status of the infant that had been plopped-out on American soil, and everybody was 'home-free'.

The Obama regime essentially threw the borders open to anybody who wanted to wander in here, allowing entire TRAINLOADS of them to come in here, even riding on the tops of boxcars. They were met by Democrat social-workers who relocated the illegals in huge compounds throughout the United States, giving them anything they wanted, and eventually turning them loose by the many thousands. Only a token few were ever permanently deported -- most got the "catch-and-release" treatment.

This lesson has not been lost on the rest of Mexico or ALL of Central and South America. The result? Huge caravans of 'migrants' massing at the border, crossing any way they can, frequently demanding asylum with "borrowed" or kidnapped unrelated children in tow. Now because of the sheer numbers involved, ICE is having to simply let them loose in the country until their "court date" which in many cases in YEARS down the road.

So, who's to blame? EVERYBODY WHO TOUCHED THIS STARTING WITH WORLD WAR II. Ronald Reagan made a futile attempt to fix the problem, but he was stabbed in the back and betrayed by DEMOCRATS who refused to keep their part of the bargain Reagan made with them in 1986. Now Donald Trump has figured out that the only way we're ever going to stop this monstrous wrong is to SEAL THE BORDER SHUT! Good work, Mr. President -- this is the most intelligent approach to the problem, and it WILL work!

. Obama's answer to the problem in 2014 -- LET 'EM IN!

 

In hindsight, I suppose we should have aborted all brown babies, then like the libs, we could be murderers without remorse.

More humane to seal the border...

 

Somewhere I remember a 20% number being accepted. So evidently they are.

 

Geez, really? Shutting down the ports of entry puts pressure on Mexico to actually stop these caravans......I cannot believe I had to explain that.

 

Regarding the bold part above, you're admitting these people come from a violent culture, but how can you say that only the non violent ones want to come here? It would be insane to think that.

Your last sentence is rubbish.

So why do you want illegals to come here, what made you change your position from what Obama, both Clintons, Reid, Pelosi, Feinstien, etc told you to have a while back to the position you have now? Was it because you want the votes, or are you just simply following your new and updated orders?

 

We have handled mass migrations before. Why can't we organize infrastructure and personnel in order to handle this influx?

 

You didn't explain it because there is no valid explanation for idiotic "solutions" cooked up by Trump and his bots.

 

Mexico? With no armor and no air force and no navy.... I give them a week.

 

This is such a stupid idea that I actually hope he does it. Within days, there will be so many Trump supporters who are pissed off with this that this action alone could easily cost him 2020.

As one example: auto manufacturers rely on a lot of parts from Mexico. And they use "just in time" deliveries. I expect that there will be a few days worth of parts already in the country and in transit towards the final assembly plants, but very soon the parts will not be available. That means shutting the plants and laying off thousands.

Maybe someone will explain this to Dirty Donny and he'll back down. But I hope not.

 

You and I both know that isn't going to happen so how about stronger security at the border?

 

Yes it did. That's a fact. Adults who show up at the border with children they can't prove are related to them will be separated until that relationship can be documented.

Child trafficking is a serious problem on the border. You might push off the blinders and look into it.

Remember the fraud Time magazine tried to pull with the cover shot of the little girl looking up at the President? The one attempting to pass on the same lie you've attempted to pass on?

That little girl was never separated from her Mother, because her mother had documents proving their relationship. Of course it came out latter she should have been arrested for child abduction, since her husband had no idea she was going to take their child and leave.

Learn some facts, the rails you left are so far behind, I'm not sure you'll ever find them if you tried.

 

For the simple fact that such requires significant funding, and the united states only has finite resources available. It cannot even provide for its own citizens, it should not be required to divert those finite resources to process illegal aliens.

 

Great post but you really shouldn't terrify righties with facts....

 

I think our expenditures in the past, such as buildings and personnel on Ellis Island, have ultimately proven worth it. I'm sure there were the same folks who said, "Keep the Irish out" (or insert other group). They were wrong.

 

Dream on...

 

The economic impact is far greater than higher prices for avocados, there are over 5 million American jobs that directly depend on Mexico, and that would only be the direct economic impact of closing the border.

 

Socialism not Capitalism solves all problems for the right wing. The socialism of command economics not the capitalism of free markets.

 

The tough guy righties are out in force on this one. See how tough I am? I can shoot myself in the foot and think I'm winning.

 

Only a Trump zealot would see this as anything but another dry bone tossed to the gullible base. What's next, aircraft carriers crossing the Rio Grande? Billions of dollars of commerce flow back and forth across the Mexican border every day. Nobody is going to touch that no matter how loud the base cheers or how many silly little T-shirts they create. Anybody that applauds or believes this latest Trump bullshit is way over the edge and should stop embarrassing themselves. Trump fought reality and reality won. Again.

 

The last time we had masses of 'migrants' on anything approaching the sheer SCALE of what is roiling along the border now (with more forming from further south) was in 2014.

The Obama regime's answer was to look the other way, deport a few of them in "catch-and-release" publicity stunts, and mainly to do a "meet-and-greet" where we took the aliens in by the many thousands, giving them food, shelter, clothing, medical attention, legal councilors, and whatever else they wanted, and then shipping them out to temporary migrant 'centers' all over the United States where they were fawned over by liberal Democrat 'social workers'. Eventually, most were simply released to go wherever they wanted. Thus, for years, they've been roaming all OUR country, and NOBODY knows where the hell they are.

Jump in a 'time-machine' and journey with me back to the idyllic period of the radical Democrat approach to 'immigration' in 2014 --

 

How embarrassing.
I guess the wall really wasn't the solution after all.