Brunei to Punish Adultery and Gay Sex With Death by Stoning

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Americans are just as bad as the Brunei government, huh?

    Anyway, this will bring you up to date.

    "Prior to 2014, homosexuality was illegal and punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment, regardless of whether the act was done in private and consensual. In 2014, Brunei announced it will begin imposing Sharia law. Homosexuality is punishable with death by stoning under Sharia law.[2][4] It is scheduled to be enacted on April 3, 2019".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Brunei

    There is no such law in the USA and it has never been proposed. You're consistent, that's certain.
     
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    Yeah, you can't help it.
     
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    A fake Muslim is the same as a fake Christian. They are fake in accordance with someone else's definition of what makes an actual Muslim. Classic True Scottsman fallacy.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, people also tend to broad brush members of the KKK, Nazis, Fascists, and so on. It must make life difficult for all of them.
     
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    If you had just opened with that instead of broad brushing all of Islam of being like these extremists, half this thread wouldn't be happening right now
     
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    Could you please rephrase this? It's not making sense.
     
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    I agree with you about the white nationalists. Yes consistent. Broad brushing. It's what the OP is all about.
    Why did it take 5 yrs to get all outraged about some country no one has heard of before?
     
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    The difference is one is good and the other bad. (Maybe more apt to say a real muslim is the same as a fake Christian?)

    A fake muslim is probably going to be in the same boat with a real Christian, and vice versa.

    Sort of like how some may say that Schindler (good) wasn't really a real nazi because he wasn't onboard with their ideology.
     
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    The comparison is quite apt. Islam is moving through the same changes that Christianity made not that long ago, moving away from the killing and violence against those not their brand of Christian. This is why the broad brushing of Islam as a whole is wrong, while calling out this country for its brutal practices is right.
     
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    How many individuals were murdered while the rest of the world waited for Christianity to get to the point it is today? Conflating Sharia Islam with all other Islam is the problem. Might as well conflate all of Christianity with the KKK or WBC.
     
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    The law becomes active April 3. Are you for it or against it?

    Never mentioned nationalists of any color. Read, understand, double check, and then post.
     
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    The KKK was localized whereas Islamic terrorism is international. And of course Islamists kill, rape, kidnap and torture on a much broader scale than any other anti human group ever did.
     
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    2017 - 129 anti-gay laws were introduced in state houses in the US.
     
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    Anti gay? What laws were these?
     
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    Islamists didn't start WWII, which killed over 60 million people. Islamists didn't run the Soviet Union when Stalin killed millions more. Mao wasn't an Islamists when he slaughtered millions, Pol Pot wasn't an Islamists. Napolean started wars that killed millions.

    Islamic terrorists are bad - but they can't hold a candle to some of the masters.
     
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    trying to compare tiny microagressions to stoning
     
  17. Fred C Dobbs

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    I said 'broader' meaning Islamism is more wide spread. Communism certainly came close however.

    The ideologies of Nazism and Communism have both been largely defeated, though sentiments remain, and the same thing must happen with Islam.
     
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    Any straw will do.
     
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    Christians world wide have grown to better understand, live and apply their religion, amenable and respective to others. Generally, Islam has not.
     
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    Are you going to call out everyone in this thread who is saying the same thing I am, or are you just flirting with me? And when there is a major conceptual error, such as conflating Sharia Islam with all of Islam, then it is right to call them on their BS and comparisons are proper to use.
     
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    Why would I be for it?
    I am not someone who thinks religions should force anything on anyone. Are you?
     
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    Many countries with radical islam has oil. Therefore, our RW side, gives them a pass. See Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Show me where those groups have large divisions among their followers to the point where they can't even agree on basic tenants, yet alone whether violence against someone for a given action is right or not. I'm looking forward to hearing about Orthodox Nazism vs Protestant Nazism.
     
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    Exactly how long is "not that long ago" with regard to the discussion above? How many years ago did Christianity as a religion cease sanctioning the killing of homosexuals and adulterers? How many decades? How many centuries?
     
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    What I'm saying should be quite clear. The thread title is "Brunei to Punish Adultery and Gay Sex With Death by Stoning".

    Why are you bringing Christianity into the conversation? Perhaps you can start another thread on the subject of your choice.
     

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