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What crossed my mind when he said that is how we used to have really bad brutha here who would say the people who use AA the most are white women. What I was trying to point out is blacks have an opportunity with AA and if they don't take advantage of it then that's on them.

 

All the black people I’ve met had jobs.

I don’t mind buying products that black people use.

 

I miss Brutha. We never agreed on anything, but at least he was consistently loyal to those factions he supported, and in his own way, he was ethical, straight-forward, and honest! He never pretended to be anything but exactly what he was....

Another thing I liked about him was the fact that, unlike many on the liberal Left, he didn't play the 'deflect/ignore' game. If he disagreed with you, he'd come straight out and tell you so instead of slinking away in the 'dark' or changing the subject.

 

I also liked him to the point that I told him if he was ever in the Las Cruces/El Paso area that the first few rounds of beer were on me.

 

He had a bad case of turf toe. It has been operated on, and he's in a walking cast for six weeks. He'll be back next year.

 

The Daytona 500 will be starting in a few minutes.

It promises to be different than all that woke liberal horse ****.

 

That is flat out racism, and not systemic / institutionalized racism. Systemic racism is blatantly there. O proved that with black people getting a harsher sentence, on average, under the same circumstances when the same law is applied to all.

Nope. That's to counter existing systemic racism. It still worth the minorities while to "whiten" their resume to get a job interview.
https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minorities-who-whiten-job-resumes-get-more-interviews

It's very common for East-Asians to alter their first names to Jack, Steve or John. Freaking classic.
And what a total fail of an example from you.

 

Sorry, notme, but it's bullshit to make broad, unsubstantiated generalizations about who gets what sentences on average, and to assume that they are meted out "under the same circumstances". Is that what some liberal 'advocacy group' told you?

Fact: Individuals commit crimes, and individuals are sentenced to prison terms -- not "races"!

The takeaway? If you don't want to be in prison, don't get caught committing crimes in the first place! But, some people are too stupid or too disrespectful of law in civilized societies to GET IT, regardless of "race"....

As I said, the only hard-and-fast verifiable evidence for 'systemic racism' in the United States is that which promotes unfair and unequal advantages for "minorities" -- primary Blacks, as I have already described, and which you and your faction steadfastly ignore....

 

Nope. Your claim that it is all "unsubstantiated" is not based on anything. The US government, to be more precies the U.S Sentencing Commission says it's just the way it goes. They looked into it and concluded that white people simply get off easer because they are white. It is what it is, and I'm not interested in unfounded opinion that it's aint true or because you know best.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/11/17/16668770/us-sentencing-commission-race-booker
That’s the conclusion of a new report by the US Sentencing Commission, which found that black men got 19.1 percent longer sentences for the same federal crimes as white men between fiscal years 2012 and 2016. This was after accounting for several variables, including criminal history, whether someone pleaded guilty, age, education, and citizenship. A separate analysis that controlled for a history of violence — but only for fiscal year 2016, due to a lack of data for other years — produced similar results. Based on the commission’s report, this disparity has grown over time. // According to the commission’s report, judges are less likely to cut black men a break than white men. White men were more likely to get their sentences reduced under the judge’s discretion than black men, and white men got larger reductions than the ones black men got.

Heck, my source even goes on:
other research suggests that racial bias plays a significant role in the US criminal justice system — and the Sentencing Commission’s report provides more proof in that direction

Everybody is equal under the law. That's how it is on paper.
However it's not a piece of paper, but an individual who picks how long a sentence must be.
How that goes, has been looked into, and the statistics don't lie.

It's easier to not get caught, when you're not the preferred race of the predominantly white police force eyeballs the other race. The predominantly white police force arrests black people +300% more often on drug related offenses, while white people commit more drug related crimes. That's a MASSIVE margin! A fact! I sourced it... and you're on full ignore on this, instead of manning up to facts.

Goes hand in hand with same source:
Several studies have found that race plays a powerful role in how the general public — and, by extension, those in the criminal justice system — see people. A recent series of studies published by the American Psychological Association, for example, found that people are more likely to see black men as larger and more threatening than white men, even if the black men are not actually larger. Another study published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology in 2014 found that people are more likely to view black children 10 years and older as “significantly less innocent” than their white counterparts.

Ignore? I proved it's still worth the minorities while that despite that kind of racism, it's still worth it to whiten their resume. You're not responding to that racist "allegation" which is actually a fact.

 

nope ... the pre race was a wokefest ...

 

I didn't want you to think I had ignored your post, because I haven't. I've actually been thinking about it a lot last evening and today and I don't have any fast-and-easy answers. The study you referred to stated that sentencing "can be driven by racial bias", and that there are those other studies that find Whites are, in essence, intimidated and feel threatened by Black men. I am not going to try to pretend that is an impossible conclusion, because, in reality, it may be quite correct -- given the overall reputation that some (SOME) Blacks have made for themselves in American society.

Consider: On a per capita basis, Blacks do commit the most violent crimes in this country (very often against other Blacks!), they are very often identified as participants in less notorious crimes involving drug peddling, theft, break-in's, failure-to-appear-in-court, etc. Blacks add to this unsavory perception other races have of themselves by being the largest group, again per capita, of welfare handout recipients, and a 'favored' sector of society that is provided with "Affirmative Action" for college entry, hiring and recruitment 'quotas', and separate, set-aside status for millions of dollars worth of government contracts on which only 'minorities' can even submit a bid!

That much is true -- but, it does not justify in any way unequal sentencing for identical crimes in near-identical situations! To that I can only suggest that Black 'advocacy groups', like the ACLU and others participate in a more vocal, robust way when Black prisoners come up for parole, and that their cases are argued more accurately and vigorously, on a CASE BY CASE BASIS!

But the entire United States, all our institutions, all our separate government entities, and all our many different interests and viewpoints as a society do not (NOT) even suggest a mythical "systemic racism" that permeates everything in our country.

There used to be such a "systemic racism" in the United States before 1965, but it's been gone for over 57 years, and that's a very GOOD thing!

 

When the American Psychological Association says "race plays a powerful role in how the general public — and, by extension, those in the criminal justice system", which is frankly rather straight forward to understand.... than it's rather just a knee jerking reaction to reply with a quote of "can be driven by racial bias" and kind of leave it at that. That's just deliberately downplaying of how it is. Your previous claim of "The only 'systemic racism' that has existed in this country since 1965 has been the imposition of unconstitutional practices by governments that favor Blacks over other citizens" -a personal biased concept- has been thoroughly debunked.

You also blame it now on black people why white people are racist against them... a racism that's so present in such significant numbers that it shows up in research. That is just never minding the American culture of just being racist against black people for being black. A person like Donald Trump personally benefitted for legal apartheid rule until he was well in his college years, a culture that was legally there for centuries. And you got to be kidding me that a cultural background that he got, ad plenty of others have, and has been there for centuries, suddenly disappears from peoples minds and is not being passed on. But here you are coming with just blaming it all on the minorities. Plenty of rapist including pedophiles pin the blame on their victims too. Nazi's find it also justified to discriminate the Jews. Utterly ridiculous and it should have been going without saying.

White people commit the most drug related offenses. It's slightly higher than black people. The thing is, black people get arrested +300% more often than white people and tossed in jail at a +600% rate.
https://www.hamiltonproject.org/cha...y_race_rates_of_drug_related_criminal_justice
Stanfort university researched almost 100 million traffic stops, and found that cops are on average racist by keeping on stopping and searching black people more, while white people statistically get more infractions. While the veil of darkness actually lowers the amount of black people being stopped when it gets harder to see what race the driver is.
https://www.jbhe.com/2020/05/stanfo...t-driving-while-black-is-less-risky-at-night/

With that, it suggests that white people are actually more criminal. It's also a fact that a large part of crimes go unsolved.
I heard this many times before, and what you are actually referring to is not who is more criminal, but only about who got arrested.
And as shown % of ethnicity getting arrested simply is not the % ethnicity who commits crime.
I got 2 sources saying it aint so, with a difference up to staggering +300%.

And the reason is racism. I proved that.

I sourced that the American Psychological Association says there is wide spread racism in the US justice department and outside it too.
I sourced that the university of Stanford says there is racism in the US police force.
And if you will I can source the HRW saying there is too.
And if you will I can source the US governmental sentencing committee saying there widespread racism in the US justice department.

All you got is your tiny irrelevant opinion it's not.
Well well.... "you got me".

 

I made an honest attempt to show you an alternate view of the overall issue, complete with the admonition that more should be done to cut shorter the total sentences to which Blacks are subjected, when contrasted with sentences given, generally, to Whites for the same offenses under roughly the same circumstances.

This has brought nothing from you but a fairly predictable condemnation, which I am perfectly willing to bear. I told you A truth, and it might even be closer to THE truth than I'd realized.

I'll leave you with another thought here you can criticize, but let it pass through your mind before you do: "Racists of all kinds are MADE, not born."

What goes wrong ten or twenty years later?

 

The real thing that baffles me is that when the sentencing commission -a part of the US government- comes up with the stats that racism is applied to black people on a wide scale, since they are getting harsher sentences. And if you look it up, this is nothing new. They have concluded this for really quiet some time. That it just ends there. There are freaking entire tribes of people roaming around in the US going in full denial it is so, without a clue, while the legislative branch doesn't give a damn, like your random politician.

And as you said, something should be done.... but it hasn't happened for so long. What gives?



And even you kept on insisting that -despite the racism is plainly there in the sentencing, and other damning reports about the US justice system as a whole, that I kept on sourcing and sourcing- you still deny there is systematic racism.... with ZERO really ZERO prove. That's just ignoring facts. This aint 2020 anymore when facts did not matter.

What goes wrong?
You think people don't follow suit with the cultural norms and values of their parents? People really usually are in general -as an example- a Catholic citizen, simply and only because they got raised up by their Catholic parents. Sure, some convert but that's rather marginal. So when you got, as I previously mentioned, a guy like Donald Trump who personally got raised up in a country where he as a white person was a 1st class citizen under legal protection by the apartheid government.... yeah how on earth does the US still have racism everywhere when that generation aint even dead. /sarcasm.

 

Translation: It's where overfed, oversafe, and privileged First Worlders moan about how hard their lives are.

 

Brill post! Thank you

 

Actually, "the youth of the day" (any youth, any day) will almost always take a perverse joy in rejecting the culture of its parents. This is acutely so in some religious sectors -- especially Roman Catholic. Our parents were the "World War II Generation" that listened to Frank Sinatra. We were the "Vietnam War Generation" that listened to the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. You know what I mean....

A million years ago, when I was young, my peers were marching in the street for civil rights! We were thoroughly against Johnson's war in Vietnam, the oppression of Negroes (yes, they were proudly called "Negroes" by the great Black humanist philosopher, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.) Our parents accepted separation of the races as routine and 'normal', but we 'Boomers' did NOT. And we 'youngsters' were secretly delighted when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 became the undisputed Law of the Land!

But, within ten years after that, along came the first of "preferences" for Negroes, "Affirmative Action", and all the rest of it, which really only put a spotlight on the embarrassing-but-somewhat-true paradigm in this country that Black people couldn't compete with other races without some kind of government 'crutch'.

Nevertheless, I'll tell you with a straight face that we enjoyed much better 'race-relations' during the 1980's and 1990's than we do today -- MUCH better. And, as far as prison sentences go, it does appear that for whatever reasons -- some worse or better than others -- there are more Blacks in prison today, per capita, than any other race. Perhaps the best advice remains, "If you don't want to go to prison, don't commit crimes."

I maintain that there is no White-against-Black "Systemic Racism" in this country in 2021, and that there has not been any such thing in reality after 1965. You will disagree, as before, so all I can do now is wish you a good day, hoping that we somehow overcome all the hate, propaganda, manipulation, lies, and misery that all of us are being subjected to now by forces that profit themselves and gain power by pitting one race against all others....

 

The largest single contributing factor regarding more blacks in prison than whites is our drug prohibition.

While the CIA was running drugs into the country, mostly blacks were selling them in inner cities. Recall the story of Gary Webb in San Jose.

 

Your opinion that there is no systemic racism means nothing when we weight that against the research that I posted from highly credible sources of:
- the sentencing commission of the US government;
- Stanfort university;
- Human Rights Watch;
- The American Psychological Association.



You're free to have your unfounded opinion and live in a fake reality being part of the problem since you openly dispute facts.
The hope is set that your kind of generation who has been invested by the norms and values of racist ways from pre 1965... will die out,
while people like Obama, Biden and Harris gain support with their idea's that racism is rather all over together with people who support the peaceful side of BLM.

It's a gradual thing, the altering of the cultural heritage of ones country.
But you can see a line going forward and onward from Rodney King to George Floyd... of cops getting busted as a fluke, to it's getting to be the norm.
The outrage doesn't die, it keeps coming back and keeps getting bigger, thanks to smartphones and social media.
The little groups standing around their precious general Lee statues start to look mighty silly against the masses....
And the statues are getting torn down illegally and legally all over. It's just symbolic of to how the changes happen.

Your opinion won't put a dent to how this marches on. I hope you realize that. Maybe you come to terms and accept the facts over personal opinion.
But probably not. It's not as if a person got invested with the religion of their parents will cast it aside too.

 

I'll probably end up in some re-education camp run by Leftist Thought Police. At least I won't set off the lie detector when I tell them that I never mistreated a single Black person in my life. You value nothing I say, and I have nothing else to add.

Have a lovely day.

 

Yeah well... you're just making it all personal about your opinion, and you never minding the facts from sources.
You're still living in 2020 obviously where facts don't matter.
So silly.