California close to passing law that would legalize killing babies after birth

Despite your polishing of that turd, the legislature itself has said that this was not their intent, so I believe have changed the language. It is not about whether or not I have any objection to a 14 year old getting married; the principle is that those who write the legal language of laws are not beyond screwing up-- that is the analogy.

 

Sometimes it is hard to know whether what the law might do was actually their real intent or not.

Some of these laws look like they are cleverly designed to do something without completely obviously appearing to do so.

Some of it is just that they are so motivated to support things that they use as expansive language as possible. In trying to support one thing, they exercise inadequate care to try to put the proper limits on it.

 

When they acknowledge an error, after the fact, and then change the language, it seems a pretty reliable sign that it had been a mistake. Now, if they don't change the language of this California bill, then you'd have a real case. Note that this is still only "proposed legislation," so it is meaningless, at this point. I guarantee you, the governor will not sign that bill into law, as it is currently worded.

 

Because perinatal is the medical term usually relating to pregnancy OF THE MOTHER https://meteor.aihw.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/327314
And although the term “perinatal” is used when assessing foetal and infant mortality it most commonly is used in reference to “stillbirths” and refers to the period relative to the pregnancy, in which the infant died

https://publications.aap.org/pediat...158/Standard-Terminology-for-Fetal-Infant-and

 

So you declined to answer.... Not unexpected.

 

one like this?


"Bush Criticized for End-of-Life Laws"

https://web.archive.org/web/20051219170102/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,151448,00.html

"But on March 15, a Texas law signed by then-Gov. George W. Bush (search) in 1999 allowed the hospital to go ahead and take Sun off the respirator in defiance of Wanda Hudson's wishes."

 

So you like the idea of marrying a child of 14?

You don't know what people in Tennessee think.



I don't wish to change the topic, but my point is that is really not a good example, because there are plenty of people who would not disapprove of that.

Why "fathers" ? Are you saying the mothers have no say, just the men?

Of course it's a bad idea for a 14 year old to be forced to marry and gestate....that's why there are laws against it.


DECENT people protect children.

How completely totally hilariously irrelevant !!!


ANOTHER example of an Anti-Choicers caring more for a fetus than for a BORN child.

 

Duplicate thread. This was already debunked to death.

Besides, do you really think there are women who would want to deliver a baby so they can murder it later? You need to think about what you are claiming and ask yourself if it even makes sense.

 

Not my claim to support

Remember - I do not do other people’s homework for them

 

That is why they teach people to read so they can evaluate the context.

 

There are women who drown their babies in bathtubs.

I could go through a long list of possible reasons that might make some women likely to want to kill in this situation.

 

Anyone who's paying attention knows the supposed fact checkers are biased as can be.

But they tell you all the things you wish to hear which should be a clear enough sign right there.

 

You mean by encouraging 14 year olds to go out there and have sex with lots of different people?

 

The average person could skim over these laws, without too much thought, and not realize what they would do.

You have to look at how certain wording in the law would affect the actual enforcement mechanisms.

And think about how some of the words could be interpreted.

This may be a hard thing for many people to wrap their heads around, but some of these laws can legalize things without explicitly saying those things are legal.

 

That could be one interpretation of what that means, but it could also be interpreted differently from that.

Maybe you will agree this law uses some problematic language?

 

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Kas: And what do you think is wrong with that?"""



FoxHastings: So you like the idea of marrying a child of 14?""







FoxHastings said: ↑
Of course it's a bad idea for a 14 year old to be forced to marry and gestate....that's why there are laws against it.


DECENT people protect children

What TF are you talking about.....who does that?

 

Murder a baby and risk death sentence as opposed to leaving the baby at a fire station? What are these reasons that your mind creates?

 

I think that would be the subject for another thread.

Women do not always behave entirely logically.

Well, anyway, if this law passed, women might fear no punishment for doing that. So I think your logic there was a little bit circular.

It might even be the boyfriend who actually kills the baby fetus, and she is too afraid of him leaving her to speak up. Then the law assumes she was the one who did it and it's seen as okay.

 

Then why did you bring it up here?

You have been played. The law does not come anywhere close to saying what you were told it says.

You were told this was a duplicate thread, so if you want to know the truth you can look up the other thread were this was discussed. You have a habit of opening new threads so you can bumb propaganda topics which have already been debunked.

 

I mean the specific psychological reasons and all the possible scenarios a woman might do that in.

 

People who refuse to teach abstinence and the importance of marriage and committed relationships.

Now enough of this off topic stuff.

 

Women have given birth to babies and killed them or left them to die. Women break laws and murder just like men do. Sounds to me like this law may be an avenue to protect these women who show no regard for the life of their newborn.

 

Kas: And what do you think is wrong with that?"""



FoxHastings: So you like the idea of marrying a child of 14?""

No one is encouraging 14 year olds to go out there and have sex with lots of different people.

LOL, it's always "off topic" when YOU don't want to talk about it...

 

Ya, the old "we'll PROTECT women by taking away their rights"" ploy LOLOL

 

Your post makes no sense. Did you read my post too fast? I was saying ....this Cal bill would protect women from consequences if they deliver their baby and then kill it afterwards.