California college defends mural showing fanged border agent, upside down US flag

If you are going to make an accusation of hypocrisy, make it against that university. Find the evidence that this college, these decision-makers, denied equal access to conservative views expressed in similar fashion. Otherwise you are just another whiner with nothing to back it up but Rush Limboughisms

 

Your remark is about a person who took part of that national policy. And when that is relevant, so is the policy.

See. You keep naming him a veteran, as if that gives him more of a voice and right to speak. He doesn't. You refuse to see him as just a concerned person, hence I keep on bringing it up that his job caused way more good than harm. You can thank him for helping out to create ISIS and the tsunami of muslim immigrants heading towards Europe.

You did say he was protecting American rights with your "thanks to people who have fought for those rights."
It's total nonsense. He made the world a worse place.

Let me remind that it is YOU who keeps dragging in the army in this conversation. You don't see him as a random former student. And getting the military to have their say about how walls must look like in schools, is a fanatically anti-American / North Korea style of life.

Than shut up about that the voice of some random person matters already ffs.

I have a problem with people dragging in titles like "veterans" as if that gives them more right to have a say than others. And you most certainly keep seeing him as a "veteran" and certainly not as a random dude. The gimp risked his life for an exceptionally low wage -probably because he couldn't find anything better to do- who is part of creating ISIS and the refugee crisis. Might as well listen to a drug addicted hobo. And it's you who got a problem with exposing what a veteran actually means these days. These people aint the same as the veterans fighting against the nazi's to end oppression. These people are as dumb as Charles Graner.



The guy doesn't like art. Big whoop.
Plenty of muslims got a problem with how Charley Hebdo makes fun of them.
No doubt you be... IN YOUR FACE WITH THAT when that topic comes around.
That weak in the mind of an ex-soldier needs to get a thicker skin and deal with the criticism.

 

First of all, I made my complaints about ALL of liberal academia (including Cal State Northridge) so I withdraw nothing but if you want proof that this university in the uber leftist Cal State system is just like all the rest (the obvious example of the absurd mural notwithstanding) you can read this (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/10/the_devil_comes_home_to_cal_state_northridge.html), if you truly want an answer...which I suspect you don't.

Secondly, there is no example of denial of "conservative views expressed in a similar fashion" because there is no conservative equivalent to the Chicano Studies Program at Cal State Northridge (not surprisingly). Furthermore, can you imagine a large mural, in place for nearly two decades, showing a fanged, billy club wielding black, bisexual, atheistic socialist George Sorros funded progressive hun ready to strike down a white, middle class, church going family
(while kicking over a cross on church grounds), protected as free speech by the school on their very own administration building?

Of course you can't. No one can. That's why your post is so absurd and laughable. http://www.charismanews.com/politic...us-retaliating-against-a-pro-family-professor

 

Paint a mural of Islam's Muhammad being (*)(*)(*)(*)ed in the ass by a goat and leftists would be screaming for it's removal....while they celebrate "(*)(*)(*)(*) Christ" as "art"

 

The post isn't about the wars. And soldiers have nothing to do with national policy.

You may thank our national leadership for that.

No. Your rights were won by warriors like this guy - people cut from the same cloth.

Nope. Voicing one's opinion is fanatically American. Try voicing your opinion in North Korea sometime.

Shut up? On a political opinion forum? Shut up? Sounds like someone got their feelings hurt. You may disengage from this conversation any time if it's too painful for ya, son.

I believe you do.

Our freedoms were not given; they were won and preserved by people willing and able to fight for them. Not everyone can do that. But it has always been that way....

When men disrespect our veterans by calling them "dumb" and "the gimp", the words always have the ring of a combination of humiliation and envy to my ears. I don't suffer from those feelings, but, as a man, I understand them and recognize them in other men.

Anyways ... Hey, I just got off the phone with my son, the veteran. He took time out from working on his Master's thesis to call his old man ...

 

That's art? I guess our students don't just suck at math, reading, writing, and science...

 

Bison Jump does generate a lot of hits. I have been able to consult a number of sources now. This is a good place to start:

“On May 29, 1805, the day after the midnight visit of the buffalo bull, Lewis documented one of the Indians' means of killing buffalo, sometimes called a buffalo jump, or "pishkun." To modern readers the practice may seem terribly wasteful, but in fact the Indians knew that if any animals escaped, the rest of the buffalo would soon learn to avoid humans, which would make hunting all the harder.”
http://www.lewis-clark.org/article/441

Several sources indicate that almost every steep drop that could facilitate a mass slaughter was used for that purpose, and that the accumulation remains over centuries provided a rich source commercially exploitable fertilizer. Frankly, I find this barely credible. I want to see more details.

More interesting is the fact that there were no permanent tribal settlements in the great plains. Even the early settlers referred to the great plains as "The Great American Desert" because of its unpredictable extended periods of drought. The Indian Heritage of America, Alvin M. Josephy, Jr., Revised Edition, American Heritage Library, 1991, p. 339. With the arrival of the horse hunting parties could venture well into the plains where the vast herds had been relatively secure for thousands of years. 129. Early in the 18th century many tribes conducted extensive seasonal buffalo hunts into the plains. p.136.

The Ecological Indian apparently supports much of this, but I do not have a copy. If you are doing research into this I will extract some extended quotes from the texts I have on hand. None of this diminishes the role of Europeans during the final push toward extinction.

I found one source that actually raised the issue of animal rights in connection with the buffalo jump slaughters. It increased my sympathy for the Indians - considerably.

 

You keep calling that person a veteran, so I drag in what it stands for.

Negative. Guys like this fight 3rd world countries for geopolitical games that mostly backfire. This is nothing like WWII.

North Korea is what you wish with your the opinion of the military matters in what walls look like in schools.

When you agree that a school and art has nothing to do with peoples opinion,... than indeed shut up already about this person opinion matters. It does not matter at all. It's like hearing a muslim whining on and on about how some people make fun of it's religion. We all can do without that kind of nagging.

Right so... "The post isn't about the wars. And soldiers have nothing to do with national policy." but only when you decide it is. I don't think so. These people did nothing for our freedoms. They most certainly decreased the freedoms of others since they created ISIS who oppresses others.

I can call them idiots what I want. Go to North Korea with your anti-American attitude. And since they decreased the safety around the world,.. no need to give respect to them anyways.

 

Not likely, son.

Soldiers and Marines have zero to do with making national policy. That's basic Civics 101. Do you know how the U.S. government works?

"what I want" ... That's not English. Is English your first language?

My dad is a vet, I'm a vet, and my son is a vet. When men disrespect our veterans by calling them "dumb","the gimp", and "idiots", their words always have the ring of a combination of humiliation and envy to my ears. That's what I'm hearing here ... humiliation and envy. I can explain the First Amendment and some basic Civics to you, but I can't help you with those feelings that you have revealed to me, son.

 

You web link is an anecdotal story without independent verification. Maybe its true, maybe its author needs new meds. We don't know. Beyond that you cannot sustain an accusation of hypocrisy by this university. I am disinterested in your stereotyping of the left broadly to suit this purpose.

 

Sooooo... Are you saying a gay pride event is a message of intolerance?

 

This is the exact question that came to my mind when looking at this. They wouldn't allow a mural which flipped it around, painting the immigrant with fangs, would it? This isn't defending free speech - this is defending free speech that they like.

 

free speech no matter how offensive to others is only worth protecting if its from the left.

If it comes from the right it must be violently put down.

 

I'll compare it to this -
CHICAGO — A painting of the late Chicago Mayor Harold Washington dressed only in women's frilly underwear was returned to its student artist Thursday, 24 hours after angry city councilmen ripped it from an art school wall and police impounded it, saying it could incite rioting.

Seizure of the painting from the prestigious School of the Art Institute of Chicago touched off yet another racially tinged uproar, further polarizing relations between the city's white and black communities.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-05-13/news/mn-3414_1_late-mayor

Harold Washington. Chicago’s first black mayor. At the time of his death in 1987, the New York Times described him as, “one of the most visible symbols of urban black political power.

Rumor is he died wearing a bra and panties. Or at least a bra, for he was a morbidly obese individual. But that’s getting ahead of ourselves.

http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2013/02/great-moments-in-black-history-mirth.html

 

This professor's problems with failing to toe the leftist line is quite well known and can be verified through many sources.
All you have to do is look (though I know you won't).

Again, you just fail to look at what you don't want to see. http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2011/...rnal-hypocritical-calstate-oks-anti-semitism/

 

just don't write "Trump 16" in chalk on campus.... that's a hate crime and racist


As a conservative, I have ZERO issues with the university allowing the mural to remain.... and just as long as a mural of Trump as a savior should be allowed to remain if the conservative groups created it.

Both sides should be allowed to politically express themselves. The issue we are seeing at Emory, and Kansas is, free speech is a one way street for liberals who have no issues practicing their own free speech, but want to prevent conservatives from exercising their same rights.